Boomer6

My take is that the AF understands this completely. However, the AF has no interest in retaining pilots that aren’t full send on drinking the koolaid. The current system provides them an easy way to get rid of pilots that aren’t already going to do whatever it takes to make 20, while opening up space for young LTs that are more pliable and more likely to shut up and color. To me the handling of COVID removed any doubt I had that the AF disapproves of critical thought and prefers a “please sir, I’ll have some more” attitude. The pay incentives offered are more of a flick of table scraps to a malnourished pet in order to maintain a submissive attitude.

Pardon the interruption of your regularly scheduled political circle jerk for the following news from Russia/Ukraine: https://news.yahoo.com/five-russian-jets-blown-drones-201253205.html

Are you guys taking about @torqued?

Mods while the Ukraine/covid circle jerk continues..

Maybe we should create a separate thread for covid and Ukraine…🤔

Out of curiosity, how many troll accounts can get made by current users/random idiots before they start getting deleted?

Things seem to be going well at Tinker…

I could care less what average Americans think. In fact, there are only a handful of Americans whose opinions I actually care about. If I wanted to be held on a pedestal by average Americans I would have become a firefighter. Just one man’s opinion.

Yeah, let us all know how this great idea works out. OP, my bros in C-17s are TDY a lot more than I am in the CAF. We average on the road 3 months (3 TDYs a year) for my sq going back the last 6ish years. The C-17 guys I know were at least twice that, but none of them were Elmo guys. You should checkout the How do you feel about your airframe and mission? thread if you haven’t already. I know there are C-17 dudes that have posted there. It might not be Elmo specific but you’ll get the idea of how much they’re gone. What I know for sure is that PACAF is 5 gallons of shit being stuffed into a 1/2 gallon sock. Be prepared to fight every TDY to get paid IAW the reg. and before your GTC gets sent to collections.

Agreed. Ppl with low emotional intelligence, little self-awareness, who don’t care about those they work with, or who embody a millennialist personality will definitely make life less pleasant for those around them. Believe it or not there are plenty of ppl in the world that work at jobs they don’t like, but because they were raised to take pride in their work and have a positive attitude you’d never know it.

There’s a difference between anonymously saying you despised your time in your MWS because you didn’t like the style of flying and the life of a MAF pilot wasn’t for you, and making that known to anyone in your sq that will listen. Some of the most liked and high speed dudes I know did not like being in the CAF/AF for various reasons, but you’d never know it unless you were bros with them and specifically asked the question. Plenty of dudes crushing the flying hour program so they can get the mins for the airlines. The AF didn’t agree to train someone to be a pilot, but only if they did it because all they wanted to do was to serve. The AF gets something out of it and so does the individual. I see nothing wrong with someone deciding to join the AF to with one of their main goals being to build hours for the airlines. If they’re a good dude, do their job, and are a good officer then I’d say those are ppl the AF needs.

None of that has anything to do with telling a guy that answered the call, was a presumably good pilot/officer, and then decided another 10yrs wasn’t for him that the AF is better off without him. The AF is better off without pilots that only want to do ten years? I don’t think the current “needs of the service” as far as pilots are concerned fits that viewpoint. If the AF desires pilots to want to stay in longer than 10yrs I think recent history will show that “don’t worry we’ll find someone to replace you” doesn’t work well as a retention/recruiting slogan. I know many young captains and even LTs that heard the same statements from the bobs and decided they were punching. Not for lack of job satisfaction etc, but because they had no faith in leadership. It shouldn’t be unfathomable to imagine why the trope the bobs are spitting results in dudes telling the younger generation to think twice before serving

If Standby is doing a GenChoad impression, then it was spot on. If not, then youngins’ take note of how to spot the Bob perspective.

I was more getting at what I see as a drastic overreach of power by federal, state, and local authorities in response to COVID. This includes the shameful way many managers within the DoD handled COVID. Lives were ruined and livelihoods destroyed and those responsible for pushing these policies will never be held accountable. Those on here and DoD wide who pushed for a scorched earth policy against anyone who disagreed are counted amongst those responsible.

Keyboard warriors with near zero accountability on an internet forum don’t have the balls to admit they were wrong, and even continue to double down on being right…There’s no way political animals with money/power on the line are going to take any kind of responsibility.

30 second google search turned these up. Let’s be honest though, I could drop link after link and you would argue against it. Meanwhile it only takes a single right leaning person on BO to mention their worry of a civil war and the prominent liberals on here immediately exclaim “Look the GOP wants a civil war!!” I think uhhello is right, political ppl see what they want to see and ignore what they don’t want to see. Just like the hardcore conservatives on here can claim to be conservative Christians and then explain away every single drastic character flaw Trump has. I prefer political hypocrisy to be balanced if nothing else.

If you ignore who posted this video compilation and just watch the contents, there are a few examples of what I mentioned. This just happened to be the first link that showed up from google..

To pile on to M2’s last point, there may be discussion from some on the right about how the current divisions could spark a civil war. However, the number of ppl openly calling for the use of violence against members of the opposite party has been predominantly from voices on the left. It’s been almost commonplace these days to hear a media figure make a quip about the use of violence, read a tweet from a celebrity about using violence, or watch a political candidate speak at a rally organized by a group who endorses violent crime as a means of enforcing their politics. The most concerning part is this violent rhetoric is accepted as being righteous. We have ppl getting canceled for their faith and people being celebrated for urging violence against members of the opposite party.

It’s hard for conservatives to find common ground with liberals when the latter refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing from a member of their own party. A few acknowledge the wrongdoing but then refuse to admit there is a double standard in the application of the law. The few liberal voices on this board often lament that conservatives keep mentioning civil war, despite the fact that the majority of the media institution in America has continuously demonized the other side of the aisle and cast them as enemies of the people for the last 6-9 years. If you’re a liberal and you don’t think Hilary was let off the hook due to the FBI playing politics then you’re no better than a conservative that argues Trump is without fault. The liberals that refuse to uphold their party to the same standards that they weigh the opposition party against are nothing more than hypocrites, and are just as responsible for the erosion of trust in America as the forever Trumpers.

My personal gripes and those of bros at a UPT base on why these assignments are hated by some: - terrible schools around UPT bases for their kids - little to no jobs available for their spouse in the local area unless they want to use their masters degree to steam milk at Starbucks - DoD level jobs for their spouse…lol - the base itself is shitty - on base housing agency tries to F you at every turn - timeline rules all, to hell with trying to make students better, just push them through. One size fits all cookie cutter approach to students that are struggling. - a syllabus written by absolute retards - management that doesn’t have the balls to do what’s best for the students/IPs because though that may be best for the AF, it’s not best for the timeline and thus not best for their careers - Oh you left the CAF as a 4E/IP, well have fun trying to get back to the TX as a major, unless you want to go to Korea, holoman, eielson, etc. BTW you’re now behind your peers so good luck catching back up as a major and staying in the CAF if that’s what you want. There’s so much more but it’s Friday and not worth it to keep typing.

Simple answer: humans time traveling from the future.

Do you think metropolitan areas as a whole across the U.S. are safer than they were say 5-10 years ago, the same as they were, or less safe? Same question but instead of safe insert “cleaner”? Are there more homeless, the same amount of homeless, or less homeless? Genuine questions, and I understand you haven’t been to all U.S. metropolitan areas, but what is your impression?

I think you’d find a large percentage of conservative minded ppl that would vehemently disagree which side the larger cacophony is originating from. Copy, they’d believe that because they’re biased too. However, the amount of silencing of conservative viewpoints via social media platforms, news media, and print journalism is a very polarizing issue. Political pundits and journalists labeling anyone non-progressive as a bigot seems to usually be exclaimed quite loudly. Do you think this viewpoint from the right has any basis in fact? Are conservatives over-exaggerating what they feel as a concerted effort by progressives to demonize them, or are they just trying to rile up their base?