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Chief bass and the rest of the SNCO core that would rather have a group circle jerk so they can get promoted than take care of their ppl. The enlisted senior leadership is no different than the officer side. The difference is that senior enlisted leaders know senior officers will do what those officers have been trained to do, trust their SNCOs. Those SNCOs then have a free hand to do as they please and crush anyone that gets in their way.

I’m gonna ignore your political comments and begin by immediately making a political comment. Here’s a link for what that word actual means: ignore definition. As far as officers being leaders goes I tend to agree that most of the ppl I’ve met I’m who were in command were managers not leaders. However, if you want to talk responsibility for the shit lives young enlisted live then I recommend you take a look at the E-8/9s that are burning morale to the ground. I can only speak to the mx enlisted side, but if the rest of the enlisted service is full of leadership as toxic as what I’ve seen there, then no wonder young airmen are having issues. Can’t imagine why there is a shortage of mx personnel.. oh wait it’s because you get nailed to the wall for minor mistakes. Meanwhile SMSgt chucklenuts is banging anyone but his wife every TDY. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve dealt with some great SNCOs, but they were the absolute minority. Most of them couldn’t lead a pair of steak knives out of a wet paper bag.

Sure he was a 1 tour guy? Heard a rumor he was going to be a DO at a UPT base..

Wait until they start making IFF guys teach TP Stalls when FBF gets up and running.

Ppl believe what they want to believe. These days that tends to fall in line with their political affiliation. However, if you’re a college educated individual and you think the medical community has a firm grasp on exactly what long lasting side effects may or may not occur from a vaccine developed in 18 months, then I’d say you’re either extremely naive, don’t have a background in any kind of science, or haven’t seen a commercial for a drug that’s been out for 10 years that they’re still finding causes certain side effects. If your counter is, “well most side effects occur in the first X months.” Scoff. Its a risk analysis based on time and the number of ppl in the sample size, and currently from my perspective the time aspect is a significant factor. That aside, if the military wants me to get vaxxed, then make it mandatory and back that up with medical care for any long laying side effects. Prior to that don’t treat individuals as a pariah for waiting until the EUA is rescinded (like individuals on this board that are involved in ROTC..). The amount of ppl I saw get absolutely screwed by leadership for holding out while it was under EUA or that submitted exemptions is abhorrent. In 10 years if there are side effects for ppl that took the vax under EUA do you trust the DoD or the VA to take care of you, or do you expect them to show you the EUA fine print. This pandemic has revealed the true colors of a shockingly large number of individuals in positions of authority in the DoD. Turns out if you punish ppl for not violating any regs they lose all respect for you and wouldn’t follow you into warm water.

Out of curiosity, is this individual still going to be flying in the AF?

Curious which response this will garner. The Jules: or the Dude:

The first person to cut their dick off in the pool of applicants will definitely be the next CSAF.

Imagine how horrible it would be when you prove them all right by doing a mediocre job. Or worse, focusing on DEI instead of solving other actual problems.

I no joke laughed for a bit when I read this. Idk how much time you’ve spent in PACAF, but the dumpster fire meme comes to mind when considering their “logistical prowess”

I don’t disagree that ppl on the right need to stand up against bigotry and radicals. I don’t think anyone that regularly posts on here disagrees with this either, and I also don’t think the vast majority of conservatives disagree. However, I don’t see large sections of the right having rallies and pushing for legislation calling for segregation or for women to wear chastity belts until they’re married. Those ideas are just as ludicrous and anti-American as what more and more liberal pundits seem to be championing. What I do see is the mind numbing rot that is DEI infecting young minds across academia. If you want to argue that the majority of democrats aren’t leftists then you may be correct, that’s not something easy to prove or disprove. Regardless, the loudest voices are carrying the party and the academic institutions are pushing DEI harder than a Baptist minister pushing the collection plate at a revival. Interact with some young college students (probably not at liberty university) and bring up DEI and we can compare notes. Both sides have issues. Obviously. The over correction by the left is going to cause some serious upheaval or a break in society in the coming years, and that’s not shit worrying to me.

The only thing that could make it even better would be for ppl of a certain skin tone to pay other ppl with the opposite skin tone money, specifically because of their difference in skin tone. We’d be a complete utopia if we could just convince the nation to let public schools and hospitals change the gender of minors regardless of their parents’ wishes. We can even have it subsidized. These are serious issues that I believe are going to cause major strife in our country. We have a history of ppl willing to commit violence when they’re being mistreated, especially if it’s due to their skin color. Besides that, idk anyone that’s not willing to commit violence when another person attempts to harm their children. I’m concerned the far right is going to grow exponentially if these issues keep getting pushed by the far left. We need less violence not more. Not only that, we need liberals with the intestinal fortitude to stop letting the radicals in their party push this ideology. You wouldn’t have a large part of the population ready to vote for trump if the entire fabric of the country wasn’t being ripped apart.

Gents, stop feeding the trolls. The individuals you’re trying to engage with have shown time and again they’re not interested in having a good faith argument. They find spouting some drivel about Christianity they picked up on reddit as their form of “owning the conservatives.” They’re just as intolerant as the caricatures of religious bigotry that they rail against.

You’re in luck: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/cavinder-twins-hinting-wwe-next-adventure-forgoing-last-year-miami

We supported the savages in ‘89. Not all savages, but they’d definitely stone a dude for sucking dick, much less a girl reading a book. If supporting them helped in some small part to bring down the Berlin Wall then hurray for us. The Ukrainian government may be eastern-euro trash but I don’t see them flying planes into buildings (at least not US ones) anytime soon. Who knows, maybe Ukraine will be the spark that gets Putin drawn and quartered and brings Russia into the light to help us combat China. Just as Clancy intended.

Here’s an article regarding the two Tennessee legislators that were expelled from the state House of Representstives: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/07/us/tennessee-democrat-house-representatives-expelled-friday/index.html This quote from the Tennessee Democratic party, “Their expulsion sets a dangerous new precedent for political retribution,” Then the Tennessee Democratic party chair called their removal a “direct political attack on the party.”

Finding common ground is hard to do. Especially when, in this situation, ppl like Prozac and NSA refuse to acknowledge the drastic shortcomings of politicians they support/voted to elect. Is it pride that refuses to acknowledge the less than stellar performance pointed out by your brothers in arms on the other side of the aisle? As if, by admitting that your pick isn’t JFK reincarnate, your worldview is somehow threatened. Admitting these politicians have made any serious mistakes is showing weakness, which is not allowed. It’s not surprising, because this is the same mindset that every POS commander I’ve dealt with in the AF has. Deny, deny, deny, counter accuse. ”Everyone is going to have to compromise” but also I refuse to even entertain the notion that the current president has made any significant errors. You’re disingenuous. Along with everyone on the right that thinks trump is our lord and savior. The ppl that refuse to converse/debate in good faith are directly responsible for the breakdown in cooperation in both society and government. The more you double down the more the forever trumpers are going to double down, and the more the moderate right is going to move further right, and the moderate left is going to move further left. I hope you’re ready when the pendulum swings back the other direction.

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Those pushing DEI have no issues with racist/sexist hiring practices because the ends justify the means. Those practices are part of the “help” and “removal of barriers” that are alluded to, but they don’t have the integrity to openly grant their approval. I find it comical the same individuals that will argue with the conservative dudes on here for hours about how the main stream media bias/hunter Biden laptop story/pick your conservative conspiracy theory are all just BS and there’s no real collusion. Then they’ll jump in this thread and demand that we all agree there’s a large barrier put in place by white males to anyone else entering aviation. If the liberal minded individuals in the room don’t realize that their quiet endorsement of racism/sexism/gender in the hiring process is extremely hypocritical then you’re never going to find common ground with conservatives. You can’t virtue signal day and night and then agree with these practices and think you have any credibility. I’ve yet to hear anyone say “we shouldn’t be reaching out to underrepresented communities” when it comes to aviation. Using race/sex/gender as a discriminator is what is being argued against. It’s happening in the government and on the civilian side, it’s been happening and the ends don’t justify the means.

I don’t know that anyone is arguing that there should be barriers to ppl based on physical traits they’re born with, specifically in aviation jobs. However, there are a lot of company/gov led initiatives that are pushing certain groups of ppl based on physical traits they’re born with. I get the impression after years of these arguments on BO that the liberal minded ppl here and in America have no problem with physical traits being the discriminator as long as it helps someone get a job, but consider it abhorrent if the situation is reversed. I don’t understand how that isn’t a hypocritical viewpoint.

By that logic I’d recommend no drinking, smoking, drugs, or fornicating until 25.

You’re mad that senior officers were pussies during Iraq and Afghanistan, so now when they’re recommending our gov back Ukraine you’re pissed they’re not bending over to the will of Russia. You want them to double down on being pussies? 🤔

Great info, thank you. I’ve heard if you have any kind of break in service that you can’t start collecting retirement until you’re 60. The example I was given was: if you have a 1 day break in service between a 10 year AD tour and 10 years as an AGR with a guard unit, that you can’t collect until you’re 60. Any truth to that, or do you know the reg where I can find this?

What constitutes a break in service?