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Or go vipers and do it all ...

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This is the best response to the OP's question. Don't worry about the crew aspect, choose the one that suits the mission you want. If you want an A/A mission with an aircraft that excels at that mission, go C model. If you want a dual role aircraft that is designed to excel at A/G, go for the Strike Eagle. The Mudhens can't BFM for shit against the Vipers and Eagles, but the other guys don't get to rage into a threat zone at more than 500 knots, less than 500 feet, blacked out, at night. With more than 1500 Strike Eagle hours, I can count on one hand - make than one finger - the number of WSOs who were talking luggage. They know their role, the crew duties are clearly laid out, and we have a good method for setting those straight who have problems figuring it out.

I would not.

Only if you like re-typing steerpoints in the EOR.

If you're considering the Mudhen, you should really look into a Bone. Bigger payload, longer ranger, and same maneuverability: )

The last USAF aerial victory was on May 4th, 1999 in Operation ALLIED FORCE. Lt Col Michael H. Geczy shot down a Mig-29 with an AIM-120 while flying an F-16CJ with the 78 EFS.

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Nothing to add really, just want to post on page 69!

Meh, We're dropping multiple GBUs/Hellfires to kill a dude getting paid 200 dollars to dig a hole and bury HME. A GBU-10 for a MI series is probably a bargain by comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So what was the pilot/bus driver doing when the "cough" nav/was doing all the killing and who got credit? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

Well, since you brought it up....

Likes: Everything Dislikes: Nothing Oh, you're talking about specifics to each. Do you want to spend your ground time in the vault memorizing a litany of procedures and coming up with a game plan, then be ready to execute another plan on the fly? When you fuck all that up and merge, do you think you can hang at 9Gs (or 6.9 in the Mudhen) until you fix your problem? If so, you should go air-to-air. Do you want to spend your ground time in the vault memorizing threats and weapons effects and planning your target run for best case, then be ready to flex to the backup plan with a secondary or tertiary targeting plan? When everything goes to hell and SAMs start launching, can you threat react, monitor your flight lead, then get back together and hit your target? If so, you should go air-to-ground. Summary: A/A - fly high, turn bad guys in the air into hair teeth and eyeballs. A/G - fly low, turn bad guys on the ground into hair teeth and eyeballs.

Or there's the way the Navy/Marines do it where you are judged based on the last 200 studs that go through rather than a small sample size of 14. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

I'm not ashamed for watching the whole thing... School house rock is awesome...

Flying the Raptor, I've never once wished I had A) stayed in the F-15C or 2) had a WSO or iii) flown any other fighter. Having flown with WSOs only in IFF, I never thought to myself, "Man, I really enjoyed flying with that WSO!" Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

This might help you determine who it is that determines the budget, who determines the National Security Strategy, who declares war, etc. Hint: it isn't all the same office or branch of government. Ultimately, who is in the Oval Office isn't as important as the branch that actually passes laws and spends tax money.

I love hearing single seat guys talk about what it is like to fly with a WSO.

Bone is probably better at air to air as well

This thread.... It's good to know the one universal in all branches of the military when it comes to aviation is reminding everybody how your selection was the right one and theirs was stupid.

Oh good. This conversation again. Wheeee.

WSOs aren't real people. I'd rather have the extra gas.

Guys I found an excellent poem online that might clarify this: Republicans are Red. Democrats are Blue. Neither of them give a fuck about people like You.

"it's pretty easy to figure out which party benefits uses the military for PR purposes more" is more accurate. Republicans lost their way after 9/11 when the party became a platform for businesses to profit through legislation.

I knew they couldn't keep 'em retired forever! But in all seriousness, it looks like they're cramming as many WSOs into the Strike Eagle pipeline as they can. We need them!

Going through the same thing now brother. PM me.

Got back recently from an interview at my unit of choice and was offered the job! The most unique of the "questions" was the first one, in which they said "This interview is all about you, so spend 5 minutes and tell us about yourself and what got you here". Most of the rest of the questions they asked fed on my answer to that particular question, and in the end the interview lasted about 45 minutes. At the end they offered me the opportunity to ask exactly 1 question of my own. I've been to a handful of interviews and while the format was similar (still sitting in a chair in front of a bunch of pilots), I felt the open ended nature of the interview resulted in a great dialogue that was beneficial to both me and the hiring board. It was very non-confrontational. I felt the real interview, though, was not what I said in the board room, but rather the general interactions you have between not only the pilots, but the enlisted members as well as the other candidates interviewing. Say yes to every opportunity they give you, whether it is to grab lunch, to hang out at the bar, or whatever. Hopefully you have strong test scores and good work experience, and beyond that, just be a good dude with a positive attitude and you will go far. My advice - be yourself and be laid back! Don't be afraid to joke around if you see the opportunity, and also don't take things personally if they give you a hard time about something stupid you do or say. Also, if your interview is in a different city, I'd highly recommend making a mini-vacation out of it and even taking your spouse with if you are married. Not only will it help you make an informed decision about living there, but it will also show the board that you are committed.

I went through the same thought process back in UPT, even filled out two dream sheets the day of. Fortunately I'm straight so it was a no-brainer which one to turn in when I had the gun to my head. I cannot imagine anything else at this point. Imagine having a fvcking WSO as your SQ/CC. That's not some kind of hyperbole in an after-school special to scare people away from drinking beer. It really happens!

Jeebus Christola on a Cracker, a GBU-10 for a helo? Is everything WSOs do Korea-esque not-quite-right? Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network Forums