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Yeah! Fuck the Constituion and the 4th amendment! Who the fuck really needs freedom? Give me Orwell's 1984 any day over privacy.

I can make it rain singles on a twerking stripper. How's that for net worth?

Dave Ramsey offers solid advice, but if you want to make some real coin, I suggest Wu Tang Financial...Diversify those bonds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_rDtmT246s

Go home Tonka, you're drunk.

I think I paid about $9 for mine. My daughter caught a nice catfish with it, so it's pretty lucky, but with straight-line depreciation I'm guessing it's worth about $3.50.

Between him and the previous Little Rock WG/CC aka SOS Commander, they are producing some real winners.

No, No, Yes, No.

You know, you're right. "You didn't make that" after all.

I make it hail on them hoes! Euro has 1 dolla coins.

Here's the problem: Though I stand by my earlier remarks that the Snowden release is good because it has people discussing the issue, allowing more people to see the truth and have less trust in their government, etc...I will concede to Serious that more than likely not much will be done to significantly change how the federal government does their business. Obama said he would have the most 'transparent' administration ever, so if this is what constitutes transparent, then I think we're in serious trouble. Many on the left (as shown via NYT) is applauding what Snowden did and therefore (I'm assuming) wants these practices to stop. Yet Obama and the Dems will not stop it, and the GOP, especially the establishment types (Rep King, Sen McCain types,) will not vote to stop it either--hence we get the same Patriot Act BS. The only somewhat legitimate candidate for one of the two party's nomination in 2016 that I could see reducing the NSA scope (at least on the domestic side) to a degree is Rand Paul, as I don't see Hillary or Christie changing much of how things are done in DC. And if I were a betting man, I would say that Christie will get the GOP nomination, and unless things go horribly for the economy and/or Obamacare, that Hillary will win in 2016. So my prognosis: Expect more of the same with only small changes. This is why I am voting more and more Libertarian...on the big issues the two parties are pretty close to being the same.

If you want something with more meat on it and not the typical stuff like you mentioned then ignore Ramsey, he is worthless. Here are probably two of the best books to start from. Intelligent Investor: https://www.amazon.com/The-Intelligent-Investor-Practical-Counsel/dp/0060155477/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1388771737&sr=8-3&keywords=intelligent+investor Security Analysis: https://www.amazon.com/Security-Analysis-Edition-Foreword-Editions/dp/0071592539/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388771785&sr=8-1&keywords=security+analysis For a modern take on this style of investing I recommend Greenwald's book. https://www.amazon.com/Value-Investing-Graham-Buffett-Finance/dp/0471463396/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388771814&sr=8-1&keywords=bruce+greenwald There's also Peter Lynch's classic. https://www.amazon.com/One-Up-Wall-Street-Already-ebook/dp/B006YDFYW6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388771861&sr=8-1&keywords=one+up+on+wall+street

FIFY

We're supposed to be a nation of laws. Snowden was wrong to disclose classified, and the NSA is wrong for violating the 4th amendment. The American people win if: Snowden does token time, and the NSA (& others) KIO.

Only if you like watching your kids getting groped for the illusion of security. 7 Reasons the TSA sucks from former head of security of Ben Gurion Airport

We can tell...literally

Agreed however in SERE school you aren't a man without a country or being hunted by the most powerful country on the planet. I'm not saying what he did was right with the later leaks, and whatever the discussion was I still think they were to get the U.S. government to stop pursuing him. The more they pushed the more damaging information he released, its an international poker game. I'm surprised that some of you place so much blame on Snowden, what about those in the government that instead of correcting the problem decided to pursue him. This thing blew up in the governments face because they weren't willing to uphold the law in the first place or after they were expose. Snowden should have been offered whistleblower protection and the government should have shutdown the illegal programs. Now instead we have a person sitting in a not so friendly country with massive amounts of classified data. *****Break Break***** Admins, perhaps this is better moved/continued in the Liberty and Rights thread?

Why does anyone even expect this RIF/VSP/Nonsense to be any different this time around. I dropped by the front office today and it was business as usual. People are literally confused out of their minds about job security and the guys in the front don't even acknowledge what's going on....apparently those in charge with tenure and job security could really give two shits about what's happening, as is evident by the mass confusion. This is literally like having a mishap jet take the barrier, and calling the spouses and telling them their husbands are dead, to prep them just in case it really turns out to be true. Great relief when daddy comes home, but what the hell kind of process is this?!

Can't do all your living when your old is my motto.... Good luck taking that 1st class ski trip to the swiss alps when your 70, luckily i already went and just banked it on my credit card. The couple bucks interest is simply a future loan from my old self who has volunteered to sit at home and watch more TV since he can't ski anymore anyway. Lol but none will agree so enjoy!

No but there are now investigations and lawsuits, and a judge recently declared their actions unconstitutional. Let's also not forget there is now a steadying stream of info to the public about the extent of their work, to include intercepting purchased electronics to load a back door in the software, no warrant needed. I'm not ready to put Snowden on the hero pedestal yet, however, what he did blew wide open a door to illegal activity. Do I think it's stopped? No, especially with those currently in power in the executive and legislative branches providing top cover. However, it significantly pissed off a lot of people in all corners of the political spectrum. I do not advocate the mass dumping of classified data like Bradley Manning did, however, Snowdens initial release was targeted to specific illegal activity. His later ones I believe were out of self preservation, to get the U.S. government to leave him alone, since they were obviously more interested in protecting their power than the legality of their program. I had a little more faith that officers still held their oaths to the constitution above the emotional "security" actions that brought us the patriot act, DHS and TSA.

Except he is winning.

I'm in Home equity: 100K Cash on hand: 100K ( job instability right now so keeping a large emergency fund ) General investments: 10K Retirement investments: 200K 529s: 12K Property: 250K I put investing (retirement, college, etc..) at idle to help some family members get out of the hole but looking to start investing more heavily this year. Dave Ramsey is my co-pilot: Live on less than you make, don't buy stuff on credit (home is the 1 exception), save/invest a bit, give a bit to charity... rinse, lather, repeat...

Cool thing about the 117, where you're essentially no more than a WSO with landing currency, was there was all sorts of time to screw around with things like cameras or other trinkets, while watching the jet do its thing enroute to the IP or on its way back home.

I'll play along too, Pajaro: I'm guessing you're 39-40. I left active duty at 34 and finished my 20 in the Guard. When I was your age, I think my net worth was a little more than half of yours, so good job (not that I'm some kind of valid benchmark, but still, good job). I'm now 49, on my third airline and thankfully have recovered from what has been a pretty colorful transition to civilian flying. Low 100K income in 2001, 2002 and 2007-2008. Mid to high 100K since 2009. Married (wife 1.0), 3 kids, 1 at USAFA, no debt other than mortgage (15year 3%, with $207,000 to go). Owned a house since 1995, current one since 2000. Never carried any credit card debt. No family money. All funds came from USAF, Guard and Airline. Did the "DINK" thing with wife (USAF nurse) for first 4 years of marriage - so 2x O-3 pay helped establish a good base. Wife hasn't worked since 1995. Net worth: about $1,322,000 487, 000 in taxable brokerage account (7 mutual funds - diversified across equities, bonds and cash) 120,000 Roth IRA 132,000 Wife's Roth 216,000 Traditional IRA 21,000 Wife's Traditional IRA 159,500 401K 66,500 (state 529 college savings plan) 10,000 cash 5,000 UAL stock 105,000 equity in house I max out my IRAs every year (had to start putting back into traditionals because my income level precluded any more contributions to my Roths). Max out 401K each year. Invest about 25-30% of monthly take home pay into my brokerage portfolio. Donate 10% of annual pre-tax income to church/charity.

This thread is not gonna help our case in Congress fellas....and they read this site apparently...

Are you running for Congress or something? I'm not denying that you worked hard for your opportunity and that you will continue to work hard, but here's a tip: Don't call yourself a 'C130Driver' until you have, at the minimum, flown a 130, and preferably have a FM8 that says you are Q-1 in your furure 130 crew position. That I believe is why people are calling you entitled...you're calling yourself something that you are not. Unless of course you're a prior 130 Nav or enlisted 130 crewmber? It comes down to mentality, and if you think we're being rough on you on BO, this is nothing compared to UPT. Take it or leave it.

That's a retarded argument. The penalties for speeding versus intentionally disclosing classified information clearly show they're not the same. Whether or not the NSA was wrong doesn't make Snowden correct for doing so.

Fat fingered that was supposed to be a down vote. Yeah you're right he's a criminal for exposing criminal conduct by the government that's responsible for policing itself and only authority capable of enforcing laws. Wrap your brain around that one, just what the hell was he supposed to do? I'm not a fan of his intelligence dumps and the amount of stuff he took, but it was an insurance policy considering instead of fixing the criminal conduct the government fought to keep doing it and made him a marked man. Seems legit.

Oh, no doubt. Sucking up to a drug dealer can be helpful too, if you need a few Gs on the side or perhaps an ex knocked off. Doesn't make it right, and it doesn't change the company you keep, or your actions around them. What you call "networking." But I understand for a guy like you, it's a skill in your vocabulary to slob and suck. For a guy like you. As for me, the only way WalMart would enter this equation between you and myself, is if I bought the company, you applied for a job, and I told you "not just no, but hell no." Followed by, "We don't hire ass kissing politician-wannabes without principle at WalMart. I know you're used to doing that in one uniform, but it won't be the WalMart uniform."

Have you ever sped on the way to work? You are too. I have little problem with Snowden's actions (Manning is a different story). I would be hesitant to call him a hero, but what he did was very important (albeit probably fruitless in the long run.)

And yet it is still a decade late to need.

Snowden is a criminal.