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God I'm glad I went to a normal school.

On active duty, we call that the SARC.

This story is screwed up in so many ways I can't begin to wrap my junior college/state university educated brain around it. Here is my take: 1.) This entire "scandal" could have been avoided had the kid lawyered up before he signed any non-disclosure documents or answered a single question from OSI. It has been said previously but worth emphasis. Lawyer up! 2.) A rat is a rat. It doesn't make a difference if he/she is wearing a cadet uniform or a prison jump suit. It's the same. You wouldn't want this person in your squadron. Can't trust them, period. We should be glad he isn't getting a commission. 3.) The fact that he was told not to tell his Commander is a total foul, unless the investigation involves the Commander (which it doesn't.) This completely tosses the concept of following and trusting a chain of command. It pretty much says "F.U." to the entire military structure. Great concept to teach future officers. Idiots. 4.) I know there are two sides to every story, but if a grain of this write up is true, heads should roll. It's hard to tell if this was just a few OSI agents stepping way out of line, or if this informant program and interrogation techniques are the ideas from someone wearing stars. Either way teaching future officers not confront an integrity issue head on, or to do shit behind peoples back and disregard the chain of command is dead wrong. What a shitty culture that will be. 5.) I don't know what has changed with our young people but when I was a college kid in the mid to late 90's, we could drink too much, get home safely, not commit rape, and resist the urge smoke stuff that sounds like it could be your mom's grooming products. 6.) Holy crap am I happy I went to junior college then state college and completed it in just 5 short years. Not once did I fear I would be expelled from having a house off campus!

Sounds like he ended up winning.

Right...because the majority of the Air Force jumps out of planes. "Do shit the AF does" = recruiting people that won't know their own regs, thereby forcing more work upon aircrew, are stupid & lazy, and know there are no repercussions for ing things up? I don't think the AF needs to jump into football games to acquire that kind of talent.

As much as I hate to perpetuate the division of the athlete vs. normal cadet, there is something to be said of the potential decrease in quality of cadet that comes from trying to win NCAA games. This link from the Denver Post reports on discussions at USAFA on making it a 5 year college for some cases. It's easy to read between the lines and see that they are talking about athletes, otherwise they wouldn't have interviewed the AD or football coach. So many things at that place revolve around athletics. The place now has three gyms, one for normal cadets, one for intercollegiates, and a separate one for football players. If they would donate the money to support actual military training (shooting, field craft, flying training) then the cynicism and suck factor of that place would decrease by 69%. Football makes money and it's all that the leadership sees. The physical, fiscal, and time requirements to be a NCAA D-1 football athlete are so high now that the service academies should not be investing the amount of time or money in. Devote it to the other 70% of cadets and make it a better institution, not a better show of ESPN Ocho. Rant off

Oh the famous Arizona State --- Three campuses, 69,000+ Students ..... about 60% female ..... all dressed accordingly and appropriately for the weather. My friend ........ you did the right thing

I was a little bummed when I left the Zoo after only 4 short months... That is, until my 1st day on campus at Arizona State.

LOL.

It will be, it has to be now that Congress is digging and sadly, it will be yet another distraction that keeps Welsh from taking a major league swing at some of the real shit we want him to fix.

OSI needs more oversight. Totally unacceptable.

The real question is: Will this be addressed? Or will it be like all the other government scandals in which the senior officials will say, "we're concerned and are looking into it", only to to never hear much of the issue ever again? Don't worry...the Air Force has got your back.

There are no words...simply unreal.

The OSI have informants in the ops squadrons to rat people out who are talking about flying for the airlines while still at work.

uh, yes, I agree. Everyone tell me more about how the feel about this. Also, can anyone send me SOS gouge from their '.mil' email?

Why is everyone so upset, this type of system worked really well in the past. The Secret Political Department (SPO), in addition to running the general system of informants, operated special informants to infiltrate suspected counterrevolutionary groups. Finally, the Transportation Department (TO), and the Operational Department (Operotdel), also ran their own special informants networks. In addition to these networks a separate network of special informants operated under the GULAG administration in labor camps, colonies, and special settlements.

I would love to see the service academies play D-III sports. Then you funnel all the football money into the soaring/wings of blue programs. One argument I've consistently heard for sports programs is recruiting-just imagine what having more jump teams would do for recruiting if you had a team jump into the MI vs Ohio state game in front of 110k people. You know-it might help us recruit people who want to fly and do shit the AF does.

Spice'n it up boss. https://sportsbycolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Jennifer_Connelly_3.jpg

Sometimes saying the wrong thing is the correct response.

These kids were brand new sophomores, that just spent the last year having every second of their lives dictated to them. I doubt they knew about the ADC, IG or what their rights were in USAFA let alone the AF judicial system if you had walked up to them them on the Terrazzo and ask them about it, let alone in an interrogation room with an OSI agent.

The IG or ADC really isn't part of the "Right Start" briefing on inprocessing day.

Selling leave to avoid taxes = Dumb idea General selling leave info: - You can sell leave anytime - You can only sell back 60 days (max) in your career. - You only get base pay (no BAH) if you sell leave My advice: Save that shite for when you are getting out (separating or retiring) and take terminal leave. Higher rank & higher pay by then + Terminal comes with BAH. Not to mention you could pick up another job (even federal) while on terminal.

Should that NOC list ever make out to the cadet wing it's gonna be a rough day in Gen Pop. I'd have cut a bitch.

Combination of factors. Weight of the DU at the very front of the helmet causes issues but it is really the the DU, or HMCS shell NVG adapter, that catches the windstream and put pressure on the neck that is not there with a 55P. So you get a worse cranium forward force during the actual ejection than an immediate reversal as the sail attached to the front of the helmet hit the windstream. That's what the AFE shop was told as the result of the sled tests anyway. Haven't seen it in writing before, so take it with a grain of salt. The cable should only cause damage if the QDC does not actually disconnect properly or it is not routed correctly. Only the latter would be a factor at night.

It's a sad article, but I'm not too surprised. It's just a microcosm of AD AF...

A 50 year old seat would be an upgrade ....

I was going to list some of this stuff as well, but this is how things were back in the day in the early 2000s. So just because a series of cockbags, uncleverly disquised as "leaders," institute a bunch of stupid shit over the years that eventually get repealed, does not really make that an improvement. These changes kind of go along with the example that someone brought up before where you get a 10% pay cut and then several years later get a 10% pay raise. That's not really a raise or an improvement. Don't get me wrong, the Deid is actually a pretty good place now, and the positive impact that civilian clothes and no reflective belt douchebaggery or chiefs brings about cannot be overstated. It just never had to be that way in the beginning, so I can't chalk this stuff up as an overall long-term improvement.

Same way the new MB seat made it to the T-38 where, if the canopy fails to depart the aircraft during the ejection sequence, there is a well above average chance that your nugget will meet the canopy before the secondary thru the canopy piercers gets a chance to fracture the canopy, especially in the RCP where just bout everyone sits with their nugget an RCH below the canopy glass. Cap-10