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What are they replacing them with?

Ah, thanks. Missed the qualifier. That said... Only 22 states have fighter units!

Do you really believe only 13 dead?

Well its a 4/20 miracle got my dates for live laugh Laughlin starting IPT 6 Aug. I talked to the guy at AFPC this morning so he was following up with the scheduler for those of us still waiting.

KEND 26-09AU T-38C x9 (5 AD, 1 Guard, 3 international) KC-135 Altus KC-135 General Mitchell T-6 FAIP T-6C Vietnam C-130H Minneapolis x2 EA-37B Davis-Monthan E-3 Tinker C-17 Altus x2 C-17 McChord AFRC C-5 Dover AFRC RC-135 Offutt

The last A-10 RTU has closed so..... What now?

I'm sure most of the parts are the same. Most of the body panels are gray, so I'm sure their interchangeable. Say, how do you think the A-10 will do with afterburning motors?

I’m wondering how that’s going to work since a lot of the F-16 SPO absorbed a lot of the A-10 SPO personnel in the last few months.

@Sua Sponte , get over to the hangar, and tell them to get that depot line started back up!

Extended until 2030 boys!

And the people are only half the problem. Even if we had all the guard folks in the world we don’t have the jets for them to fly. Just using open source numbers we went from 4,000+ fighters in 1990 to 1,500-2000 today. Bombers down from 300-400 to just barely over 100. Obviously systems are more capable and precise now but that doesn’t make up for sheer volume if you’re talking about force cuts of 60-75%. A lot of people don’t realize how deep these cuts have been and still think we can throw desert storm 1 volume at problems and absolutely steamroll adversaries. The reality is we can’t come close to that anymore and I think it has created some unrealistic expectations in this conflict

That's valid. I was AD and then ANG and I'll tell you that the guard being used like AD is crushing the guard. Guard fighter guys can make RAP flying less than their AD counterpart and historically it's been because the average guard guy is WAY more experienced than the average AD fighter pilot. No white jet tours, no ALO assignments, etc. A guard baby could spend 30+ years flying combat coded jets non-stop and possibly the same tail numbers. That type of experience is impossible in AD. But you start deploying guard units like they're AD units and suddenly there isn't anyone in the guard with 30+ years of experience because they decided the time away and the loss of income wasn't worth it anymore. No idea if my experience was typical, but I'd bet the average experience level in my guard unit dropped by 690 hours in my 8 years. That's close to two tours in CAF units worth of experience (assuming no circles in the sky deployments). That's brand new wingman to IP loss of experience. That's a big deal. The part timers flying for 30 years straight may not be the tip of the spear in current 3-1 knowledge, but throw them into a crazy situation no one has thought to train to and their experience will bring them through way better than the 700 hour CAF IP that can rattle off all the threat data.

22 states with Guard fighter units. From the article: Brig. Gen. Shannon Smith, head of the Idaho Air National Guard and the state’s assistant adjutant general, told Air & Space Forces Magazine that it was the first time the group collected the signatures of all 22 adjutants general who serve in states with Guard fighter units. I believe every state has at least one ANG Wing, with many states having multiple wings. For a long time, each state had at least one flying wing, but I seem to recall that's not true any more, with at least one state losing all flying missions.

Maybe it’s all a big ploy to win a bunch of money on polymarket and pay down the national debt. Might be the only strategy that makes any of this make any sense

IEA proposes Basra–Ceyhan pipeline to bypass Hormuz IMHO this mindset is the long-term solution. More than one pipeline over multiple paths through different countries so we get away from the single point of failure. Definitely expensive and will take years but some things are considered not worth the cost until the real pain hits to force the issue. As long as modern military forces especially aviation (and civil aviation) need liquid dinosaurs to function this is the way.

Definitely a fair point. I remember a time when the CRAM would only tell you something was inbound and your only defense was getting to a shelter. Depending on what's inbound will largely determine if firing a given weapon system is worth the risk. Anything that's kinetic has a non-zero risk of hurting someone.

I didn't even realize we only had 22 states with ANG units... Holy shit

I think I read your vibe and see your point, like a guy always dipping into his emergency savings account to get through the month, is it really money you set aside for a problem or are you really just not budgeting correctly? I spent more time Guard than AD and saw both sides, good and bad. IIRC, historically about 1/3rd of our (and other Western militaries) are reserve forces, for financial affordability to keep immediate military capability of an appropriate size and your strategic reserve for the big contingency. Obviously we are past that model and using our Guard/Reserve (ARC Air Reserve Component) beyond the historical concept. But why? My guess is the total cost of an ARC member and their dependents, all benefits, is enough to deal with the thrash in statuses. Is this a good way of doing business? Maybe but methinks we should revisit the concept. Guard leaders are sounding off about problems keeping units viable https://www.airandspaceforces.com/guard-leaders-congress-air-force-needs-100-new-fighters-a-year/

What's his wallet say? Also - not for Catholics

Anyone know how many got picked up for UPT last year? I know the statistic they published probably didn't include the late add-ons. Top of my nugget I know 4 people who weren't even alternates, but got picked up a month or so later. I'm assuming number has to be at least above 100. Just curious.

Maybe when you decimate the heads, the guys with the guns are going to be calling the shots and the suits you're negotiating with have no say in what happens.

Reminds me when I was in SOS and we had the ANG/Reserve briefing. They were going on about how involved they were augmenting the AD force during the Iraq/AFG steady state. They asked , "Isn't that great?" I guess maybe if they're trying to get those points for retirement or whatever. But, no, I think utilizing these forces like they're AD is hiding real manpower issues, and abusing the folks who signed up for a "less strenuous" but longer reward commitment. Happy for feedback, but that shit bugged the fuck outta me.

As many times as the admin wants to keep raking in the profits from online betting platforms.

Sorry but I’m not going to re-litigate every foreign policy intervention in modern history in your requested format.. I doubt anyone here wants that anyway. But in general I think just wars are defensive ones. Politicians know this is how most people feel which is probably why every nonsense offensive intervention is sold to the public by invoking “WMDs” or “preventing the spread of communism” or some other “Imminent threat.” Also it’s funny you say I’d make a better politician than soldier because I’m generally anti-war. AFAIK it was our military senior leaders advising Trump against moves on Kharg island while Lindsey Graham was pleasuring himself to the thought of another Iwo Jima. If you think our politicians are against wars, I genuinely don’t know who you’re talking about. But this is the Iran thread and I’m talking about this war, the lies that got us into it, and the chaotic mess our president continues to exacerbate with his nonsense statements and nonexistent strategy. I noticed the strait is closed again.. so when oil spikes and the Dow takes a dump tomorrow will we be admitting the victory declaration was slightly premature? I wonder how many more strait of Hormuz Open-Closed-Open-Closed cycles will need to happen before we realize that Iran isn’t quite as decimated as we’d like to believe and the president is just wishcasting foreign policy by tweet