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Wasn't the AUMF suggested to be removed this year? Sen. Kaine sponsored for AUMF revocation in 2023. -
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No worries, just part of an actual conversation. As much my fault for not being more clear. I think the broad and never ending application of AUMF is the root cause of the "problem" (for that side of the argument). As far as War Powers, my understanding is the admin is operating under the theory that it does not apply. I've read somewhere that the legal logic being used is the cartels writ large are fighting allies (Mexico) and therefore they're all terrorists. Executive branch legal Jiu-Jitsu like this certainly isn't new. I keep hoping that congress will eventually put their big boy pants back on and take power back from the executive...... I may be naive. - Today
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Sounds like you have exactly what I didn’t know I had until I went to WP. The eye doc there was not very hopeful for any sort of waiver. Although a private eye doc said I could fix this with some eye exercises. I would visit an eye doctor prior to WP to see how many diopters you are off as this is most likely the deciding factor for any sort of waiver. I am currently sitting on a DQ FC1 hopping for a waiver or retest at least.
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One heck of a cruise for the Gettysburg and Truman Task & PurposeNavy releases investigation on 3 lost planes, including o...One of the planes was accidentally shot down by the cruiser USS Gettysburg, which also fired on another Super Hornet.
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Montana joined the community
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So if the one side thinks this is a true war crime, they are pressing for courts martial against everyone from bottom to top right? Guys on the crew of whatever asset was used. Lawyer(s) who approved it. Leadership who ordered it. I'm thinking thats not what they are screeching about, they just want Hegseth if they can get him. Hegseth is a complete douche but I don't think this will work out.
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Certainly that’s the other narrative, although it’s hard to see what’s giving you confidence in it over the alternative. The legislator was quoted saying that the boat was already a “destroyed vessel” and that they didn’t have any “means of locomotion.” I guess if that were true, would it then be problematic in your eyes?
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Boat was the primary target, it was not destroyed with first shot, so follow up was taken. Not our legal problem if two guys decided to get back on. -
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Rep Hines after viewing today said “You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion, with a destroyed vessel, who are killed by the United States.” If true, seems like that’d be pretty cut and dry based on the DoW law of war manual:
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OK, that is more a reasonable take, apologies for not understanding that initially. The 2001 AUMF has been very broadly applied to target terrorist without regard for location. Historically the current strikes are fairly inline with precedence. Now that said, I completely see the logic in Congress wanting to update this to rein it in. Additionally in accordance with the WPA, the president always has the authority to conduct mil operations when “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces". Certainly can be debated if throwing drugs at the American population is an “attack upon the US.” Keep in mind China is very involved in this from a supporting role, so I can absolutely see the argument that this is an attack, albeit not in the “traditional sense” with bombs or missiles. Bottom line, a lot nuance and gray area with valid perspectives on both sides of the debate, and therefore it is not currently a “black and white, crosses the line” situation.
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The argument is the entire concept of striking drug runners by calling them terrorists, is over the line. And yes, Presidents doing this kind of thing isn't new. The war powers resolution became a thing for a reason.
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@Swizzle Never stopped in the CAF. Still see pretty solid names, though obvious “super non-pc” ones aren’t going to stick. Still holding out hope in the 11th hour of my career that I won’t see VBF erased from the board!
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Rand Paul is full of hot air. From everything I’ve seen, including the first strike video, there wasn’t anything that remotely even touched the line. It went down like thousands of strikes we’ve conducted for decades. Anybody who’s actually done this shit knows this is a total nothing burger. And if we want to get political, I can think of several strikes I’ve seen under Obama that would apparently have our cities on fire by leftist had they known about them (except they wouldn’t care since it was Obama and not Trump). And FWIW, nothing illegal about those strikes either, but the optics are a billion times worse than this boat.
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Revival....Could've borrowed a line/name from Letterkenny™: Anita Charity Chastity Noah ...list goes on Break, break: so naming ceremonies still happening? PC namings at least? Haven't seen them for YEARS. And now that callsign patches are back...well..game on
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I didn't miss your point; I just don't agree with it. The system is not Thomas Hobbes' State of Nature that just existed. The military is a system that was formed by both good and bad people. You have a good Sq/CC, but their hands are tied by the system that was created by bad commanders above them in the CoC.
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@brabus The pearl clutching reaction is certainly political posturing. However, there is an argument to be made that striking the boats is crossing a line, Rand Paul has made it while acknowledging the cats on the boats are very probably shit heads. So it's not like there is no principled opposition to the ops in the Caribbean either.
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@busdriver Possible. But the point I was more addressing is the ludicrously stupid, general uproar about war crimes, no due process, they’re just civilians on boats that DEVGRU executed in cold blood against all laws, etc. I have no idea if Hegseth said those exact words, but I do know all of the left’s complaining and wailing about terrorist getting killed, how it’s “illegal,” etc is political ballwash and has zero credibility to it.
