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I have no problem using the PIT in the right circumstance but sometimes you have to wonder what they are thinking. My wife and I like to watch On Patrol Live and sometimes they will PIT with on coming traffic in the way. Chasing a capital murder suspect ok I can see the urgency in that circumstance. PIT a car with oncoming traffic when the dude simply ran from a traffic stop...not so much. There is a very nasty case from Michigan when a state trooper was chasing a 15 year old kid on a four wheeler, he tazed the hit while he was driving causing him to crash into a parked truck, he died. Even more disturbing (and captured in the video attached), the conduct and comments of responding officers. Some covered their body cameras and other turned them off when they started talking about what happened. In this case the officer was eventually charged with murder.

Right before he's fired, if that even is a possibility, he'll resign, then get hired by a different agency, stating he's never been fired from law enforcement.

There is a middle ground here that should make sense to everyone but it obviously hasn't caught on yet. 200 mile high speed chases that puts everyone on the road in great danger are super dangerous and something needs to be done quickly to prevent that. Don't care what you're running for, if you're running you aren't going to be allowed to put others at risk. PIT'ng someone who you haven't established is actually running (moving up to next exit, clear indicators that you're not going to become an issue) and you move to PIT them, unsat. Some jurisdictions don't even allow pursuit anymore if the person is fleeing. Have watched plenty of videos where the dude will run and cops won't chase or they have to hope the Highway patrol or other police/sheriffs can.

Hopefully enough sunlight is put on LEO entities and they adjust fire accordingly. Do I want a LEO fully trained and qualified to PIT, yes. Do I want them to apply it against only very dangerous types only, yes.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/texas-police-announce-decision-officer-163638537.html LSS, dude won't be working anymore games and is under review overall. I forgot that venues like this hire LEOs in a part time capacity.

Gotcha. Yeah that's fucking bonkers.

This exact situation was on the Oliver show. Trooper PIT'd a pregnant lady, flipped her minivan over as she was trying to find a good spot to pull over.

Several examples of ASHP hitting their lights, subject vehicle making indications of pulling over (flashers, slowing down, heading to the next exit, NOT RUNNING), and getting PIT'd in under a minute. Policy, training, culture.

So I understand the argument against based on the risk of collateral damage, but from the perspective of the maneuver itself, are there many examples of "unjustified" PIT maneuvers? You're either running from the cops or you're not. That just sounds like the pinnacle of "win stupid prizes." Or are the Arkansas troopers ramming cars 60 seconds after turning on the lights?

John Oliver has a recent episode on police chases. As I watched, I bet myself a beer that he mentions Arkansas St Troopers. Yep. Highest rate of PITs.

pro putin? lol nah just anti-another endless involvement in a bullshit part of the world that no one gives two shits about. ukraine is a corrupt cesspool that shouldn't get one dollar of our money...especially considering china is the much more strategic problem to worry about...AND especially considering we are fucking BROKE as a country.

I'd like to see that exact same interaction happen without a badge to hide behind and no TV cameras... That 'tough guy' would get whooped.

That’s awesome On and on and on, keep on rocking baby till the money’s gone.

Not even a CPO guy, just a line guy who’s clearly the front runner for biggest douche of the airlines 2025 award? I can’t even fathom that.

I have a friend who is a YouTuber who makes nothing but a bunch of woman-hating incel videos. It's not quite like this, because it's literally him reacting to the videos with a soundboard and shit. Last I checked he was making about $40,000 a month doing it putting out a couple videos a day. The hilarious part is that he is an absolute beta in his marriage and is barely manly enough to put together an Ikea couch. But because everything on the internet is fake he has thousands and thousands of lonely men who watch his videos everyday and hold him up as some sort of alpha hero. 🤣😂 He knows it's going to all come crashing down one day, but he's making an absolute killing doing it right now and I have always appreciated a good hustle.

We have some Navy dork at AA who was going around on his own volition and calling MLOA guys to harass them about their leave. Kept doing it until he was threatened by the union to stop or they'd report it to the company. Some guys just aren't happy unless they're unhappy.

You are *way* behind me in line 🤣😂

Can you iamgine how he acts on a traffic stop when no one else is around and no national media looking at you?

Michael "Mike" Hunt was a good dude.

Dibs

Shoulder a cop like that and it’s assaulting an officer

True, but I'd still hit it.

I heard it was Ben Doverbich. I still have that one tucked away in the safe. At the request of the Air Force Museum it will go on display in Dayton when I fly west.

Barry name tags and dicks in 4 stars’ hats (and also their backup hat, suck it exec!) Those were the days.