billy pilgrim Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The CV-22 community has neither the resources, the time, the inclination, or the demeanor to play stepping stone for you. Its a serious airplane flown by serious people. Go elsewhere. It is my opinion that every airframe and every pilot in active duty could make the same argument. Continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispeed7721 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The CV-22 community has neither the resources, the time, the inclination, or the demeanor to play stepping stone for you. Its a serious airplane flown by serious people. Go elsewhere. Is there a silly airplane flown by silly people? That might fit the bill for some people better :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I can tell you that the HH-60 is a silly aircraft, and we're pretty silly, and you won't ever get shot at when you fly it. Don't worry about your "path" to your eventual guard gig. The current DO of the Alaska guard is prior A-10 pilot, focus on the near rocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanee Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The CV-22 community has neither the resources, the time, the inclination, or the demeanor to play stepping stone for you. Its a serious airplane flown by serious people. Go elsewhere. It's still the plopter- and that's pretty effing silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slackline Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The CV-22 community has neither the resources, the time, the inclination, or the demeanor to play stepping stone for you. Its a serious airplane flown by serious people. Go elsewhere. You mean some of the pilots in the community take themselves too seriously while they try to justify the CV-22's existence in AFSOC? Catching a theme here? Someday they'll find it, but I think the Marines already found the only real use for it. Ring routes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RescueRandy Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 You mean some of the pilots in the community take themselves too seriously while they try to justify the CV-22's existence in AFSOC? Catching a theme here? Someday they'll find it, but I think the Marines already found the only real use for it. Ring routes... The same could be said for the F-22 and the F-35, or the F-15C for that matter... Your comment exposes your limited knowledge of the Osprey's capabilities and the missions that is has already performed... in combat. Why would a single pilot within a community have the time or inclination to justify their airframe's existence? That's bean-counter stuff. Our job is operate a weapon system to meet the mission to the best of our ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slackline Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Everybody has performed a mission here and there man. Problem with your other examples is that those airframes have a known mission. They may be in a "Break in case of WWIII" case for the moment, but air-air is a real deal. Claim my lack of understanding all you want. You have no idea what I do/don't understand, so be comfortable in your assumption. Sometimes the truth is just ugly and hard to hear. Every mission you have performed has been forced to "prove" the Osprey's caps. Relax dude, I'm just busting your balls anyway. Who cares if the CV-22's best use is for air shows that nobody can participate in anymore? Now your like an F-15C. You're in a "Break in case of Funding" case for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The CV-22 community has neither the resources, the time, the inclination, or the demeanor to play stepping stone for you. Its a serious airplane flown by serious people. Go elsewhere. Wow, what an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Just dropped a cv-22! Super excited, are there any IPs or current pilots on here that could pm me and give me some additional info? Hmmm...you must be a serious person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The CV-22 community has neither the resources, the time, the inclination, or the demeanor to play stepping stone for you. Its a serious airplane flown by serious people. Go elsewhere. Because you are too busy crashing them in the desert or the woods of Florida? Your community has some fantastic people, it also has a few real jackasses, just like everyone else. Get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke77 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The same could be said for the F-22 and the F-35, or the F-15C for that matter...Your comment exposes your limited knowledge of the Osprey's capabilities and the missions that is has already performed... in combat Your comment exposes your limited knowledge of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitzo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Because you are too busy crashing them in the desert or the woods of Florida? Your community has some fantastic people, it also has a few real jackasses, just like everyone else. Get over yourself. Shack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernmentMan Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Bump. I heard talk about AFSOC having some kind of requirement to get ACs from other airframes. Anybody here know of AMC types getting transferred to the Osprey? The gig seemed interesting to me back when I was in UPT and it still seems interesting to me now. Only like 50-70% of us get to stay in the C-17 beyond our first assignment, and I'm trying to see what all would be practical if/when I have to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddhaSixFour Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Bump. I heard talk about AFSOC having some kind of requirement to get ACs from other airframes. Anybody here know of AMC types getting transferred to the Osprey? The gig seemed interesting to me back when I was in UPT and it still seems interesting to me now. Only like 50-70% of us get to stay in the C-17 beyond our first assignment, and I'm trying to see what all would be practical if/when I have to move on. Short version -- Yes, guys have come from AMC. The community is still growing, so your timing would be pretty good. I'm super, super cereal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueMax Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Just dropped a cv-22! Super excited, are there any IPs or current pilots on here that could pm me and give me some additional info? Yea I fly it from time to time. PM or post questions here if you'd like. For everything else on this discussion board, I think my colleague (b64) was a little peeved about the possibility of getting a guy who wasn't really dedicated to the aircraft/mission but rather wanted to (possibly) use it as a stepping stone. This may be a super-cereal view of that guy's post, but hey, perception can become reality. I know first-hand that this aircraft/mission can consume your life. We constantly have to re-prove the unique capabilities of the airframe to folks even though the capes have been there for years, while still being able to fly the line. As far as I can tell, this is the most misunderstood, but yet, one of the most capable birds out there. I'd like to invite any of my AFSOC compadres to make some friends in the CV community and then come over and try the sim. Anyways-- An airplane is an airplane. Each comes with their own challenges; this plane comes with stick, rudder, power and nacelle angle ones. Edited May 21, 2013 by TheBlueMax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 We constantly have to re-prove the unique capabilities of the airframe to folks even though the capes have been there for years, while still being able to fly the line. As far as I can tell, this is the most misunderstood, but yet, one of the most capable birds out there. What does the average line guy have to 'prove' about the CV-22? And to who?...your buds in the other 130 squadron? Your job is to fly the line, learn the mission and the aircraft, take care of additional duties, etc. Let your upper level leadership take care of proving capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'd like to invite any of my AFSOC compadres to make some friends in the CV community and then come over and try the sim. Do you guys really have time to show off the sim, you know, with being so serious and busy and all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitzo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The week I see an equal amount of scheduled lines to added lines to fcf the broke birds is the week I will hop in the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueMax Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I had a finely worded thesis on the community as whole in regards to AFSOC structure and its parent, USAF, prepared..... but seeing the closed eyes and covered ears of the audience... meh. I'll just go and fly. I guess that ends my tri-annual 2 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Bluemax, I got why he was pissed. I was making fun of the way he came across. To be fair your aircraft has some awesome capes and a couple serious warts, like all aircraft. Some are already fixed as I learned last week, and some have proposed fixes years in the future and some are not fixable and require tactics workarounds. Then there's the training issues associated with manning, iron availability, standing up new squadrons, CAF integration, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RescueRandy Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 To be fair your aircraft has some awesome capes and a couple serious warts, like all aircraft. Some are already fixed as I learned last week, and some have proposed fixes years in the future and some are not fixable and require tactics workarounds. Then there's the training issues associated with manning, iron availability, standing up new squadrons, CAF integration, etc. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy pilgrim Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Is the osprey more fun to fly than an HH-60? I imagine you could fly a helo lower because of those huge props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 flying around at 20' AGL would be absolutely stupid, even as slow as we go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 NOE air taxi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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