March 28, 20232 yr On 3/28/2023 at 1:20 AM, Majestik Møøse said: In fact, add B- and C- code special pay and it’ll start to make a lot more sense. Taking on commander duties deserves a lot more cash than being a line Lt Col. DO's need incentive pay, IMO. The CC at least has a chance at promotion and is their because they want to be (most of the time). The DO is probably in that position against their will, has limited promotion potential, and is getting the same amount of crap as the CC...just one is ops and the other is people. Edit: And I am not even a DO. 😇 Edited March 29, 20232 yr by StoleIt
March 29, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, BashiChuni said: Everyone is special and deserves special pay 💰 it’s called the airlines
April 1, 20232 yr On 3/27/2023 at 11:20 PM, Majestik Møøse said: Special pay for extra quals would be pretty easily tied to your AFSC prefix, W-, Q-, K-, S-, etc. If they want to pay FTU instructors more, make up a new code for that. Easy. In fact, add B- and C- code special pay and it’ll start to make a lot more sense. Taking on commander duties deserves a lot more cash than being a line Lt Col. Why would they incentivize CC when there is already a line of officers eager to deep throat big blue by applying for wing exec, GOFO exec, and aide de camp jobs? Seems like the incentive is already there. And most (not all) take the CC job for a shot at full bird which comes with a lot more pay than O4 to O5.
April 1, 20232 yr On 3/27/2023 at 3:52 PM, FourFans said: I know some are adverse to facts...however, the $25,000 was established sometime in the early 90's (best I can tell). Congrats, they basically finally adjusted for inflation...for the first year of the 10 you'll be receiving it. Have fun with your AFPAK HANDS 2.0 assignment when they create it. Good work, great incentive. P.S. Don't take the bonus. https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm Gaslighting
April 1, 20232 yr So if you don’t take the bonus 3 years early and just take it on time, it ends up being the same bonus? 35k a year? And active duty thinks this is a good idea?
April 1, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Guardian said: And active duty thinks this is a good idea? I think it is from their perspective. They entice people to sign a year or two before the average person realizes AD sucks balls compared to the ARC, airlines, etc. (for many people, not all of course). Now as those people approach their 10 yr point and realize their mistake, it’ll be too late. Many of those people will probably just resign themselves to 20 years. It’s a good idea from the AD perspective. Hopefully those O-3s at 6-9 years of service don’t have low SA and fall for the trap.
April 1, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, General Chang said: Gaslighting How...? BoP? Or the mathematics of inflation? Compare these two sources and stories and what they say, which are from the USAF: https://m.facebook.com/AirForcePersonnelCenter/photos/a.399299226864/10155160716116865/?type=3 2017 - Volunteer! ...then a mere 3 or 4 years later...cannot provide what we promoted - terminate midstream!! https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-ending-program-for-career-airmen-to-apply-for-preferred-bases/ ...ultimately, what makes this round of BoP promises, with AvB, different? And if the assignment isn't to a base with your MWS did you just volunteer not to fly?
April 1, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Swizzle said: How...? BoP? Or the mathematics of inflation? Compare these two sources and stories and what they say, which are from the USAF: https://m.facebook.com/AirForcePersonnelCenter/photos/a.399299226864/10155160716116865/?type=3 2017 - Volunteer! ...then a mere 3 or 4 years later...cannot provide what we promoted - terminate midstream!! https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-ending-program-for-career-airmen-to-apply-for-preferred-bases/ ...ultimately, what makes this round of BoP promises, with AvB, different? And if the assignment isn't to a base with your MWS did you just volunteer not to fly? This was my thought. What happens when everyone that takes the bonus early puts NAS Pensacola (perhaps with the hope to fly T-6s)? If the numbers are skewed, Big AF will change the rules and send those volunteers to Laughlin, et al.
April 2, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, brabus said: I think it is from their perspective. They entice people to sign a year or two before the average person realizes AD sucks balls compared to the ARC, airlines, etc. (for many people, not all of course). Now as those people approach their 10 yr point and realize their mistake, it’ll be too late. Many of those people will probably just resign themselves to 20 years. It’s a good idea from the AD perspective. Hopefully those O-3s at 6-9 years of service don’t have low SA and fall for the trap. Nailed it. Hopefully those 6-9 year O-3s are also becoming aware that a longer time-scale and higher congressional authorizations provide a bit of leverage to the collective. Until Congress (draft) or the president (stop-loss) take action to make it free, nobody says lining up to risk your life needs to be cheap.
April 2, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, Bigred said: This was my thought. What happens when everyone that takes the bonus early puts NAS Pensacola (perhaps with the hope to fly T-6s)? If the numbers are skewed, Big AF will change the rules and send those volunteers to Laughlin, et al. A dramatic depiction of the Air Force in literally any deal/program/agreement they put out:
April 2, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, viperdriver1313 said: They can’t even get one out.. Yep. Half of FY23 already gone and it hasn't even been released yet. Big AF is clueless, but they never stop surprising me on just how clueless they are.
April 2, 20232 yr Yep. Half of FY23 already gone and it hasn't even been released yet. Big AF is clueless, but they never stop surprising me on just how clueless they are.They’re probably trying to figure out which AFSCs they’ll offer the full 50k to, and which will be a reduced amount. I doubt they have enough budgeted to offer it across the board. Congress is a big part of the problem when they put the amount into law, but don’t provide enough $$$.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
April 2, 20232 yr On 4/1/2023 at 12:11 PM, BeefBears said: Why would they incentivize CC when there is already a line of officers eager to deep throat big blue by applying for wing exec, GOFO exec, and aide de camp jobs? Seems like the incentive is already there. And most (not all) take the CC job for a shot at full bird which comes with a lot more pay than O4 to O5. A lot of guys want to command and fly at the highest level of operational war fighting, which is arguably the squadron. Edit: the other half of the thought: but no one in their right mind signs up for O-6 without a cultural change in the Air Force. Edited April 2, 20232 yr by Majestik Møøse
April 12, 20232 yr Haven’t seen anything for the guard or reserve but the active duty one has been on myfss for a while. Not sure if it’s open to sign or not. It’s basically 35k a year if you sign on time.
April 12, 20232 yr I don't see anywhere to sign it yet for AD FY 23. Maybe I'm looking the wrong spot. Last update on the myFSS page is 21 March with no useful info on there.
April 12, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, bad_timing said: I don't see anywhere to sign it yet for AD FY 23. Maybe I'm looking the wrong spot. Last update on the myFSS page is 21 March with no useful info on there. You can't sign it on myFSS yet as the PSDM hasn't been released. According the AvB office the PSDM release will be mid to late April.
April 13, 20232 yr If you're going to take the bonus, do so in the guard after you have a line number.
April 27, 20232 yr They’re slow rolling in hopes another solid recession hits and nobody will get out regardless of a bonus. They’re a year too early, it’ll work in their favor next year.
April 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Ryder1587 said: So 7 months in and still nothing ? It’s laughable at this point. what's laughable is anyone pinning their hopes on a "bonus" in this pilot hiring market
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