August 13Aug 13 Just saw a video on Facebook, Mass ANG F-15D had a backseater depart the jet on the ground via the ACES II. Heard it was a incentive or FAM flight. Not 100% sure on details. https://www.facebook.com/reel/4192170774392209/?app=fbl Edited August 13Aug 13 by Mole Added link
August 13Aug 13 Video without having to go to Facebook. Looks like the canopy landed on the back of the jet...still sitting there as he taxied back to parking. Rear seat still smoking...I guess he/she got the full ride! AQMaJyCMc_233nvxeiAODeOwwEuAiq9Vri1TK7WR2uG0yGiaLhNPl4cLUy5A8BhYrqls1nYnW_bw4UCOY0sbKPVLxkFKid3TAVVesf5PAr4FAg.mp4
August 14Aug 14 On 8/13/2025 at 5:25 PM, M2 said: Rumor is it was a PAO... Now I'm hearing it was a "Wing Recruiting Officer"... https://www.104fw.ang.af.mil/Careers/Meet-our-104th-FW-Recruiters/
August 14Aug 14 I helped strap in many a incentive rider in the D model and was very surprised at the little amount of seat briefing that was given by the various pilots. I got a ride a few years in and dude just said hey you're a crew chief, you know the drill 🙂
August 14Aug 14 Author 32 minutes ago, uhhello said: I helped strap in many a incentive rider in the D model and was very surprised at the little amount of seat briefing that was given by the various pilots. I got a ride a few years in and dude just said hey you're a crew chief, you know the drill 🙂 They usually receive Cockpit Fam and Emergency Egress training utilizing a cockpit trainer prior to flying.
August 14Aug 14 In UPT I recall a story told by the IPs about a female cadet who getting an incentive ride in the T-37. As they got back to parking the IP said "Ok, let get out" - the cadet gave it the old - HANDGRIPS RAISED TRIGGERS SQUEEZED. Supposedly she survived because she landed on the elevator and it broke her fall with a partial chute.
August 14Aug 14 I know incentive riders can do wacky things and I have no idea what happened in this case... but you're fucking up if you don't put the fear of god in them regarding the ejection handles and the seat in general. I don't care how much egress training they got, every incentive rider I ever flew with got another cockpit fam brief from me and I personally helped them strap in.
August 14Aug 14 Egress training is required and so is a pilot brief prior to step. This is a prime example why the seat sequencer is set the way that it is for fam flyers. Hopefully she didn't hurt anything more than her pride... Edited August 14Aug 14 by Boomer6
August 14Aug 14 2 hours ago, Mole said: They usually receive Cockpit Fam and Emergency Egress training utilizing a cockpit trainer prior to flying. Usually. I've personally seen folks TDY show up to ops, get a flightsuit and equipment fitting then step to the aircraft. This was many moons ago also. In my personal experience, I didn't receive any training. Not saying it happens for every flight, just that it happens.
August 14Aug 14 Never in 19 years have I seen a fam/incentive/PA rider not get full seat/equip training/briefing. I’m sure this person got the full training/brief, they just fucked up.
August 14Aug 14 11 hours ago, RegularJoe said: Does he get a watch and scarf? (the watch is for a Martin Baker ejection)
August 14Aug 14 9 hours ago, Boomer6 said: Egress training is required and so is a pilot brief prior to step. This is a prime example why the seat sequencer is set the way that it is for fam flyers. Hopefully she didn't hurt anything more than her pride... In the F-15E, the ejection sequencing valve wasn't put into AFT INITIATE until the before takeoff checklist anyway.
August 14Aug 14 Write ups: "Rear ejection seat - Ops check good" "Canopy scratched and will not close properly."
August 14Aug 14 46 minutes ago, Hacker said: In the F-15E, the ejection sequencing valve wasn't put into AFT INITIATE until the before takeoff checklist anyway. During a fam ride in the C model it's set to NORM the entire time. Edited August 14Aug 14 by Boomer6
August 14Aug 14 10 hours ago, Pooter said: I know incentive riders can do wacky things and I have no idea what happened in this case... but you're fucking up if you don't put the fear of god in them regarding the ejection handles and the seat in general. I don't care how much egress training they got, every incentive rider I ever flew with got another cockpit fam brief from me and I personally helped them strap in. Truth. I gave an I-ride to a crew chief, briefed him exactly what we were going to do and he was gung ho and normal as shit for the whole experience........ Riiiiiiiiiight up to about 5 seconds after brake release. Full AB and off the ground shortly after that, 5-bills at the end of the runway and into the vertical. He's hyperventilating for the acceleration which didn't seem that abnormal. At the start of the pull up he starts "ohhhhhhhhh" and then as we're vertical he says, "Sir, I want to go back." I level off at 10K and offered to just be an airliner and we could do some sight seeing and take it easy. He just kept repeating that he wanted to go back in a scary, panicked way. I started to get pretty concerned he was going to do something crazy, so I told him to put his hands under his thighs, don't touch anything and I'll have us back on the ground in 5 minutes. Should have done a straight-in but I wanted to get down fast. He almost lost it when it put some G on the aircraft in the pitch out. I figured out he no likey the Gs. Not an experience I'd care to repeat. Absolutely no fun having a panicked human trapped in your back seat with access to some fairly "reactive" handles and actuators. 0.1 KPAM-KPAM 🙃 Edited August 14Aug 14 by JeremiahWeed
August 14Aug 14 10 hours ago, Pooter said: I know incentive riders can do wacky things and I have no idea what happened in this case... but you're fucking up if you don't put the fear of god in them regarding the ejection handles and the seat in general. I don't care how much egress training they got, every incentive rider I ever flew with got another cockpit fam brief from me and I personally helped them strap in. Good buddy of mine was a T-6 FAIP at Laughlin; he got tagged to do incentive flights for some ROTC cadets going through Field Training. A friend of his was doing the some thing during the same Vul and taxis out first. As my buddy taxis into the hammerhead and catches up to the other airplane, he realizes something doesn't look right; low and behold the other airplane is now a convertible. The IP in question told the cadet in the backseat to put the ejection selector in command forward; cadet pulls the wrong handle and blows the canopy instead. Needless to say incentive flights were put on ice for a while after that. Edited August 14Aug 14 by DirkDiggler grammar
August 14Aug 14 4 hours ago, DirkDiggler said: Good buddy of mine was a T-6 FAIP at Laughlin; he got tagged to do incentive flights for some ROTC cadets going through Field Training. A friend of his was doing the some thing during the same Vul and taxis out first. As my buddy taxis into the hammerhead and catches up to the other airplane, he realizes something doesn't look right; low and behold the other airplane is now a convertible. The IP in question told the cadet in the backseat to put the ejection selector in command forward; cadet pulls the wrong handle and blows the canopy instead. Needless to say incentive flights were put on ice for a while after that. ooof that is a bad day. The canopy fracturing system in the T-6 is gnarly
August 14Aug 14 Probably not in this case. Likely the flight lead's local callsign. Possibly bought at an LPA sponsored callsign auction after upgrade/joining the unit.
August 14Aug 14 1 hour ago, BFM this said: Probably not in this case. Likely the flight lead's local callsign. Possibly bought at an LPA sponsored callsign auction after upgrade/joining the unit. 👍
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