2 hours ago, Lawman said:

Notice how they keep leaving the submarine out of the photo collections of released drone footage.

Almost like they want to not acknowledge what that vessel would clearly have been because they can’t “allege ” it was a fishing boat.

I stand by my assertion this has nothing to do with concerns about human rights and is a political big game hunt. Anybody that can put Hegseth’s scalp on the wall affords themselves the right to claim leadership of the party, and Kelly knows it.


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A lot of albeit slow submarines head across the Atlantic to Africa where less than respectable types transport it North to Europe. There may be some feigned indignation on European countries part about how these strikes are conducted but not a lot of real heartburn since it's less they have to contend with. Not to mention I'm sure we tip off LE on that side of the pond when we see things headed their way. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm274lmg7m1o

On 12/4/2025 at 10:11 PM, Swizzle said:

Wasn't the AUMF suggested to be removed this year?

Sen. Kaine sponsored for AUMF revocation in 2023.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/07/compromise-defense-bill-trump-europe-troop-withdrawals-00680407

"The bill also would repeal a pair of old laws that authorize military action in the Middle East, including 2002 legislation that preceded the invasion of Iraq and the 1991 Gulf War."