19 hours ago, fire4effect said:

CDC reports over 80,000 overdose deaths in the US in 2024. Obviously, Opioids are a big part of that, but they are often combined with other drugs including cocaine.

Lot of social costs and taxpayer money get sucked up in this problem not to mention health care.

On a side note, the cartels covert PR machine will do whatever they can to shape the narrative.

now do heart disease...this has little to do with cocaine

2 hours ago, busdriver said:

I don't know any of this thing from the inside. But it isn't hard for me to imagine that the one person telephone game through a WaPo reporter would destroy the nuance of military decision making and org charts, especially if it's influenced by the SoW saying something chest thumping and kinda douchy in response to a CDE type of inquiry (my suspicion).

For sure there was telephone game involved. That still doesn’t absolve any of the dumbassery involved in said string of comms, ranging from outright lying to putting little to no effort into legitimately corroborating statements. Par for the course for MSM and anyone willing to feed that machine.

Generally stated, shack on nuisance and decision making. However in this case, based on the first strike video I saw, there wasn’t really any nuisance. It was clearly a DWE failure with following reattack. This one wasn’t even remotely questionable to anyone who actually knows anything about DWE and doesn’t have a political axe to grind.

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2 hours ago, Day Man said:

now do heart disease...this has little to do with cocaine

What’s your point?

1 hour ago, brabus said:

Generally stated, shack on nuisance and decision making. However in this case, based on the first strike video I saw, there wasn’t really any nuisance. It was clearly a DWE failure with following reattack.

My point was Hegseth probably said something very close to what he's being accused of saying, just in another context. And the admin folks can't backdown because that would be tantamount to admitting Hegseth made a mistake (or violating the never apologize rule).

So two things can be true: the re-attack in itself can be not a problem and Hegseth opened his mouth and stupid came out.

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