Russian Ukraine shenanigans

[ChiliDawg]

On 12/29/2023 at 5:04 AM, tac airlifter said:

I looked and cannot find a single "pro-Putin"  quote from Trump. If you could provide something specific, I would possibly better understand your point.  FYI, a world leader saying "hey I met this guy, he's not the devil, we can work together" is normal dialogue.  Post UKR war Trump maturely stated (paraphrasing) "yes Putin is a killer, but there are lots of killers and I'll work with everyone to secure a peace deal."  If you can find actual Putin knob gobbling please post, otherwise your point is disproven.

The Qanon Shaman just called and said, "Really?" 🤣

Don't know if it's because I'm one of the resident Tailhook guys on BaseOps (casual reader) who knows how to utilize Datalink & PLM as well as Google "Number of times Putin has praised Trump." and the first link that pops up is "80 Times Trump has gone out of his way to praise Putin!" and it was only from 2015-2017???🤨

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

Malignant Narcissists & wanta-be fascist dictators love other authoritarian/ fascist dictators?!?🤗

Since you probably won't click on my link as it's from CNN let me give you a brief rundown of the article.

• Starts in 2015 how Putin is a stronger tremendous leader & better than Obama.
• Goes out of way to say, "How nice Putin was to him and how they have a great relationship"
• Confiscates transcripts notes from interpreter in meeting w/ Putin.
• Sides with Putin over our intelligence agencies regarding Russian interference in Helsinki
• Calls Putin, "A genius" for invading Ukraine and launching a "Special Military Operation"

Not a conspiracy tin foil hat guy and doubted there was ever a Pee Tape at a Moscow hotel, but based on his overwhelming flattery & praise of Putin, an downright refusal to EVER be critical of Putin's Russia, I'm sayin maybe?

Perhaps if you would like to differentiate yourself from Bash-schitt you might look to explore other outlets then whatever Right-Wing Ecosystem your currently vacationing in.

Happy New Year! 🤩

.02

Edited January 1, 2024 by ChiliDawg

[Boomer6]

5 minutes ago, ChiliDawg said:

Perhaps if you would like to differentiate yourself from Bash-schitt you might look to explore other outlets then whatever Right-Wing Ecosystem your currently vacationing in.

Nomination for quote of the year, and it’s only January 1st.

[ChiliDawg]

7 minutes ago, Boomer6 said:

Nomination for quote of the year, and it’s only January 1st.

Hey I'm still slightly drunk/hungover from last night out in NOLA in the French Quarter (in town for the Sugar Bowl, GO HUSKIES!) and figured it was time to start '24 w/ a bang on baseops! 

Here's to 2024 being the year we start disposing of dictators starting w/ the guy cowering behind the Kremlin's walls!

 

[LookieRookie]

1 hour ago, ChiliDawg said:

Hey I'm still slightly drunk/hungover from last night out in NOLA in the French Quarter (in town for the Sugar Bowl, GO HUSKIES!) and figured it was time to start '24 w/ a bang on baseops! 

Here's to 2024 being the year we start disposing of dictators starting w/ the guy cowering behind the Kremlin's walls!

 

Because history shows how great it’s been with the US deposing strongmen.

Oh wait, it is a total clusterfuck and causes a power vacuum.

[tac airlifter]

9 hours ago, ChiliDawg said:

The Qanon Shaman just called and said, "Really?" 🤣

Don't know if it's because I'm one of the resident Tailhook guys on BaseOps (casual reader) who knows how to utilize Datalink & PLM as well as Google "Number of times Putin has praised Trump." and the first link that pops up is "80 Times Trump has gone out of his way to praise Putin!" and it was only from 2015-2017???🤨

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

Malignant Narcissists & wanta-be fascist dictators love other authoritarian/ fascist dictators?!?🤗

Since you probably won't click on my link as it's from CNN let me give you a brief rundown of the article.

• Starts in 2015 how Putin is a stronger tremendous leader & better than Obama.
• Goes out of way to say, "How nice Putin was to him and how they have a great relationship"
• Confiscates transcripts notes from interpreter in meeting w/ Putin.
• Sides with Putin over our intelligence agencies regarding Russian interference in Helsinki
• Calls Putin, "A genius" for invading Ukraine and launching a "Special Military Operation"

Not a conspiracy tin foil hat guy and doubted there was ever a Pee Tape at a Moscow hotel, but based on his overwhelming flattery & praise of Putin, an downright refusal to EVER be critical of Putin's Russia, I'm sayin maybe?

Perhaps if you would like to differentiate yourself from Bash-schitt you might look to explore other outlets then whatever Right-Wing Ecosystem your currently vacationing in.

Happy New Year! 🤩

.02

I went to your link (which covered far more than 2015-2017, it was an exhaustive archive) and here is some of the hard hitting evidence provided that Trump is a Russian stooge and the pee tape might be real.  

This kind of stuff might be damming proof that Trump is a pro-Putin traitor to you, but I do not draw the same conclusions.  Do you have anything post-Ukraine invasion, since that was the context of this discussion?

 

[ChiliDawg]

On 1/1/2024 at 7:15 PM, tac airlifter said:

I went to your link (which covered far more than 2015-2017, it was an exhaustive archive) and here is some of the hard hitting evidence provided that Trump is a Russian stooge and the pee tape might be real.  

 

In my best Scottish Accent, "For Fookes Sake!" 🤨

Are you auditioning to be one of his defense attorneys? Really???

I mean seriously not only were you given an article with 80 instances from just '15-'17 but you literally go into the article and intentionally look for a superfluous example and try to use it to mischaracterize Trump's unquestionable loyalty & infatuation with Vladimir Putin an disregard all the cringeworthy ones?!?😑

Let's just start with ONE shall we? Since you're obviously auditioning for his attorney please tell us the logic and reason of not only taking Putin's word on election interference over our INTEL but then openly taking Vlad up on going into a Cyber Security Partnership w/ the same folks that hacked our elections a year prior.

Not only did he dismiss the INTEL from 19 of our own agencies but he actually proposed we form a strategic partnership in building a cyber security network with a hostile foreign adversary antithetical to our government & way of life. 

The is the equivalent of hiring the burglar's who recently robbed your home to install a security system to ensure you keep your loved ones & valuables safe.

Unlike myself & @ViperStud  who not only has been calling you out for your BS claims but also know how to use IFF, we swore oaths to the Constitution of the United States. Not some malignant narcissist & wanta be dictator who appeals to your inner desire to always "Own the Libs".

Go ahead an put on your MAGA hat and tell us how we've got it all wrong! I double-dawg-dare-ya! 🙃

Edited January 3, 2024 by ChiliDawg

[tac airlifter]

4 hours ago, ChiliDawg said:

Unlike myself & @ViperStud  who not only has been calling you out for your BS claims but also know how to use IFF, we swore oaths to the Constitution of the United States. Not some malignant narcissist & wanta be dictator who appeals to your inner desire....

I don't understand what these words mean.  

 

[Biff_T]

10 hours ago, ChiliDawg said:

Unlike myself & @ViperStud  who not only has been calling you out for your BS claims but also know how to use IFF

? 

5 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

I don't understand what these words mean.  

 

Remember to use the right day's codes....👌 perhaps 🤔. 

@tac airlifter I'm pretty sure you know how to use one of those.  

 

 

[BashiChuni]

On 1/2/2024 at 10:59 PM, ChiliDawg said:

I mean seriously not only were you given an article with 80 instances from just '15-'17 but you literally go into the article and intentionally look for a superfluous example and try to use it to mischaracterize Trump's unquestionable loyalty & infatuation with Vladimir Putin an disregard all the cringeworthy ones?!?😑

now do biden and the chinese. and do biden and his crack head son getting 50k/month from the most corrupt country in europe (ukraine). now do biden interfering to have a ukranian prosecutor fired to protect his son's business interests.

loyalty? in what way. no loyalty. trump talks up his opponents. you think he's loyal to little rocket man because trump played nice on his visit to NK? you have a very childish understanding of international politics. was it not trump warning the Germans they were too heavily dependent on russian energy? that doesn't seem too pro russia to me.

Let's just start with ONE shall we? Since you're obviously auditioning for his attorney please tell us the logic and reason of not only taking Putin's word on election interference over our INTEL but then openly taking Vlad up on going into a Cyber Security Partnership w/ the same folks that hacked our elections a year prior.

no hacking of elections occurred per the NYT:

"The report also found that neither Russia nor other countries tried to change ballots themselves. Efforts by Russian hackers to gain access to state and local networks were unrelated to efforts by Moscow to influence the presidential vote."

russia running influence operations (something the US does all the time in foreign countries) is not "hacking elections"

Not only did he dismiss the INTEL from 19 of our own agencies

the same agencies who stated the hunter biden laptop was "russian disinformation"? the same intel agencies who botched the iraq weapons of mass destruction? the same intel agencies that sen chuck schumer was interviewed about on MSNBC? QUOTE:

"New Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump is “being really dumb” by taking on the intelligence community and its assessments on Russia’s cyber activities.

“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

“So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.”

the intel community has a credibility problem and it's not because of trump. if it's common knowledge in the circles of DC that the intel community is vindictive and has "six ways from sunday" to get back at you...then we have problems. very serious problems and i think any sitting president should be wary of that community. hell kennedy saw this early on and wanted to disband the cia. they killed him for it, but the point stands.

Unlike myself & @ViperStud  who not only has been calling you out for your BS claims but also know how to use IFF, we swore oaths to the Constitution of the United States

Lame bro.

 

[ViperStud]

https://news.yahoo.com/media-ukraine-downs-russian-50-225508185.html
 

 

[uhhello]

2 hours ago, ViperStud said:

https://news.yahoo.com/media-ukraine-downs-russian-50-225508185.html
 

 

Sounds like friendly fire got a IL-22 as well but it made it back to a runway 

[JimNtexas]

Speaking of the ridiculous allegation that Trump is somehow pro Putin, I wonder how happy Putin was when Trump went to Europe, and immediately began twisting arms to get our NATO partners to pay the full 2% that they agreed to when they joined?

[Clayton Bigsby]

Happy because he knew it wouldn’t happen?  Causing fractures and potentially an end to the alliance?

[Lawman]

In Soviet Russia Operation Secure’s you!




Beers for the guys at Raytheon.

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[Clayton Bigsby]

On 1/14/2024 at 8:58 PM, uhhello said:

Sounds like friendly fire got a IL-22 as well but it made it back to a runway 

 

[ClearedHot]

Vlad has reportedly lost over 300 combat aircraft in the fight for Ukraine (I don't think that includes all the helos).  He lost 3 X SU-34's in one day (thanks Patriot missile system).

 

 

[Biff_T]

40 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Vlad has reportedly lost over 300 combat aircraft in the fight for Ukraine (I don't think that includes all the helos).  He lost 3 X SU-34's in one day (thanks Patriot missile system).

 

 

Seeing a Sukhoi in a snowy field on fire is an eerily type of beauty. 

[uhhello]

 

Russia's premiere T-90 getting wrecked by good ol' Brad

[DSG]

The psychology of emotional investment in this conflict is as bizarre to me as professional sports enthusiasm, but far more perverse.

[BashiChuni]

54 minutes ago, DSG said:

The psychology of emotional investment in this conflict is as bizarre to me as professional sports enthusiasm, but far more perverse.

agreed. strange to see such emotional attachment to regional conflict.

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, DSG said:

The psychology of emotional investment in this conflict is as bizarre to me as professional sports enthusiasm, but far more perverse.

It shouldn't be. You are no doubt emotionally attached to other things that people find bizarre. It's basic human nature.

 

Just look at bashi, perhaps the most emotional person on this entire forum, he's just emotionally attached to the other side of the argument.

[BashiChuni]

24 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

It shouldn't be. You are no doubt emotionally attached to other things that people find bizarre. It's basic human nature.

 

Just look at bashi, perhaps the most emotional person on this entire forum, he's just emotionally attached to the other side of the argument.

hilarious. love the immaturity.

[uhhello]

2 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

agreed. strange to see such emotional attachment to regional conflict.

Far from emotionally attached.  It sucks for the dudes over there.  One is defending their country (despite how you feel about it) and the other is in a supposedly modern battle tank by itself not using any modern tactics getting thrown into the front with no support or training and it shows.  

[raimius]

3 hours ago, uhhello said:

Far from emotionally attached.  It sucks for the dudes over there.  One is defending their country (despite how you feel about it) and the other is in a supposedly modern battle tank by itself not using any modern tactics getting thrown into the front with no support or training and it shows.  

I don't have any specific hatred against Russian soldiers (the ones who don't commit war crimes, anyway).  I also don't think Russia's invasion is justified in any way.  So, seeing Russian tanks get destroyed and the crew run away seems like a win.

[Lawman]

Far from emotionally attached.  It sucks for the dudes over there.  One is defending their country (despite how you feel about it) and the other is in a supposedly modern battle tank by itself not using any modern tactics getting thrown into the front with no support or training and it shows.  

Compare that to recent videos of Ukrainian combat footage using platoon and company sized Armored elements in effective combined arms maneuver because we’ve been training them. The Uke’s didn’t start the war capable of that across much of their formations. Mostly individual armored vehicles as supporting assault guns or ambush. Maybe you’d see a platoon but their movement was uncoordinated and sequencing was staggered so like a series of individual punches and not the synchronized sledgehammer that Armor and combined mech infantry functions as when used effectively.

They are growing as a force, and use of western Tanks and IFVs is allowing survivability and carrying lessons to the next fight of the trained soldiers. That’s not something the Russians are getting.

They are still Fires centric where we model off maneuver and I doubt that will ever change for them either culturally or looking at economy of force.


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