Russian Ukraine shenanigans

[DirkDiggler]

 

  Don't know how true this is but I've seen similar reports over the past two days.  Glimmer of hope for the Ukrainians perhaps.  An urban combat slugfest isn't going to help Russian morale if it's already flagging.

[fire4effect]

5 hours ago, pawnman said:

Just be sure to fill out that high-risk activity form before submitting your leave request. 

Not to mention a royal pain on the SF-86

[FLEA]

3 minutes ago, fire4effect said:

Not to mention a royal pain on the SF-86

Also noticed that the Ukrainian authorities are encouraging people to come wearing their home nations uniform which is not a very good idea.

[Blue]

1 minute ago, FLEA said:

Also noticed that the Ukrainian authorities are encouraging people to come wearing their home nations uniform which is not a very good idea.

Oh boy.

Somewhere in America, some former servicemember with delusions of glory is digging a set of BDUs out of the back of their closet, stuffing it in a duffel bag procured from Wal Mart, and heading to the airport.

Standing by for a photos of Meal Team 6 ending up on CNN.

[ClearedHot]

27 minutes ago, Blue said:

Oh boy.

Somewhere in America, some former servicemember with delusions of glory is digging a set of BDUs out of the back of their closet, stuffing it in a duffel bag procured from Wal Mart, and heading to the airport.

Standing by for a photos of Meal Team 6 ending up on CNN.

[FLEA]

50 minutes ago, Blue said:

Oh boy.

Somewhere in America, some former servicemember with delusions of glory is digging a set of BDUs out of the back of their closet, stuffing it in a duffel bag procured from Wal Mart, and heading to the airport.

Standing by for a photos of Meal Team 6 ending up on CNN.

The way I read it, it wasn't the pattern so much as they want you to be identifiable as a US service member (insignias, flags, etc...), which is obviously problematic for a whole host of issues. 

[FLEA]

Apparently Poland and some other East block states donated Ukraine some Mig-29s they still had inventory. This is going to get very interesting. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/28/ukrainian-pilots-arrive-in-poland-to-pick-up-donated-fighter-jets-00012560

[ClearedHot]

And the Russians moved the S400 forward...

[TheNewGazmo]

Reports of the convoy slowing.  Wonder if they're waiting for something... ie: airstrikes.  

[ClearedHot]

37 minutes ago, TheNewGazmo said:

Reports of the convoy slowing.  Wonder if they're waiting for something... ie: airstrikes.  

Fuel and food.

[uhhello]

From all the senator and rep news bites, it doesn't sound like Ukraine is getting timely intelligence from us due to bureaucracy and lawyers.  Damn shame.  

[TheNewGazmo]

They've got the UAV's.  Can't they start plinking away at that line?  A few selectively placed missiles along that convoy may send some of them packing.

[Prozac]

Very interesting. Russian military rank & file may not be entirely in lock step with Putin or their leadership:
 

Shashank Joshi (@shashj) Tweeted:
“in some cases, Russian troops have deliberately punched holes in their vehicles’ gas tanks, presumably to avoid combat, the official said. The Pentagon official declined to say how the military made these assessments” https://t.co/eIdOFOBxGP

[skybert]

22 hours ago, FormerPilotCandidate said:

Every A-10 pilots dream

Wet……dream

[Sim]

Interview with Scott Ritter from 26 Feb. A little background on Ukraine crisis that media will not discuss. 

[Prozac]

12 minutes ago, Sim said:

Interview with Scott Ritter from 26 Feb. A little background on Ukraine crisis that media will not discuss. 

Less than 5 minutes in & they’re already apologizing for Putin and cupping his balls. No need to listen to any more of their pro-despotic drivel. Go post that garbage somewhere else. 

[BashiChuni]

2 hours ago, Prozac said:

Less than 5 minutes in & they’re already apologizing for Putin and cupping his balls. No need to listen to any more of their pro-despotic drivel. Go post that garbage somewhere else. 

i listened to the entire thing. it's very interesting and i'd encourage anyone who wants to actually learn the history of this conflict to give it a listen.

knowing your enemy is important.

one more youtube video and one more article related to the topic:

https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-follows-decades-of-warnings-that-nato-expansion-into-eastern-europe-could-provoke-russia-177999

Edited March 2, 2022 by BashiChuni

[Tank]

[DirkDiggler]

6 hours ago, Prozac said:

Less than 5 minutes in & they’re already apologizing for Putin and cupping his balls. No need to listen to any more of their pro-despotic drivel. Go post that garbage somewhere else. 

There was were so many half-truths or flat out misleading statements in the 1st 10 minutes of that horseshit it got tough to keep up.  It’s pretty shocking to me that a former US Marine could believe in or support that filth.

[Prozac]

7 hours ago, DirkDiggler said:

There was were so many half-truths or flat out misleading statements in the 1st 10 minutes of that horseshit it got tough to keep up.  It’s pretty shocking to me that a former US Marine could believe in or support that filth.

It seems there are many people who want to somehow fit this war into their globalist cabal narrative/conspiracy theory & that they’re willing to give a brutal dictator who is now killing civilians en masse a pass while claiming western leaders are the evil and stupid ones. Putin himself couldn’t have come up with a better lie. I’m sure he revels in the fact that American “patriots” are singing his praises. Pathetic. 

[DirkDiggler]

For anyone else who finds what Scott Ritter has to say “interesting”, please note he currently pens opinion pieces for RT, Russia’s state propaganda network.  That network currently claims there’s no invasion of Ukraine going on right now cause videos of Ukrainian children being ripped apart by Russian high explosives would be bad for Putin’s image.
  Furthermore, he was arrested and convicted in a child sex sting operation and served time in prison.  Personally I’m not gonna use a guy who’s actually been convicted trying to get his rocks off with kids as a source for anything regardless of how intelligent they are on a given topic but you do you. 

[goingkinetic]

40 minutes ago, Prozac said:

It seems there are many people who want to somehow fit this war into their globalist cabal narrative/conspiracy theory & that they’re willing to give a brutal dictator who is now killing civilians en masse a pass while claiming western leaders are the evil and stupid ones. Putin himself couldn’t have come up with a better lie. I’m sure he revels in the fact that American “patriots” are singing his praises. Pathetic. 

The lady at my local barbershop was saying that to me while cutting my hair. I just nodded and said uh yeah since she had a straight-razor to my neck. Morons need to stop getting their news from Qanon.

[disgruntledemployee]

Not to derail, but I got a relative thats into all those conspiracies and so I told him that the russians and chinese have been creating and pushing those conspiracies, getting him to think the way they want.  The reaction was entertaining.

But yes, russian propaganda is out there.  And now its safe to label Ritter as one of them.

[BashiChuni]

understanding the "why" behind putin's moves is not "signing his praises". he's a bad dude for sure.

he is acting rationally in what HE thinks the best interest of Russia are. so many in the media dismiss him as "crazy", but in my opinion he's anything but crazy. he's been warning us and telling us what HIS red lines are and the west hasn't listened.

we have zero interest in getting involved in WW3 to "save" ukraine. zero. it's scary to see how many Americans are clamoring for war when they have no idea how this conflict came into be.

American foreign policy has been a total disaster since Korea. we need to sit this one out.

[ecugringo]

43 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

understanding the "why" behind putin's moves is not "signing his praises". he's a bad dude for sure.

he is acting rationally in what HE thinks the best interest of Russia are. so many in the media dismiss him as "crazy", but in my opinion he's anything but crazy. he's been warning us and telling us what HIS red lines are and the west hasn't listened.

we have zero interest in getting involved in WW3 to "save" ukraine. zero. it's scary to see how many Americans are clamoring for war when they have no idea how this conflict came into be.

American foreign policy has been a total disaster since Korea. we need to sit this one out.

I agree.  He's been pretty brilliant as far as achieving his goals in his role.  He seemed to be 2 steps ahead of everyone else the whole way.  

What I cant figure out is what his own intel on his own forces was.  Did he know he could barely move his army 400 miles?  Did he know his logistics were that poor?  Or is this all part of his ruse to draw in more nations?  Russia is taking heavy losses we needed to step up...oh btw you were funneling arms in through Poland so thats mine now?

The other big question is what is victory for him at this point?  He is interested in marking his legacy.  If he concedes and only takes a chunk of Ukraine and goes home, but the costs was isolating Russia from the global economy worth it?  No statues of himself for that.

If he is defeated in Ukraine and goes home then hes a total failure.

At this point the only glimpse of a victory would be inflicting as much damage as he can on his way out.  I dont see how he or Russia recovers.