2 hours ago, uhhello said:

Looks like the first ship has already ignored the blockade. Asian-American type.

CENTCOM is saying different from ship trackers

6 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Chinese Seamen?

Getting through the strait IS a short trip...

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by FourFans

23 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Exactly this. Haven't we already done this with a few ships from the ghost fleet?

I have zero SA on maritime law, so IDK if a ghost ship is legally treated the same as a chinese flagged oil tanker, or an Iranian flagged tanker etc.

I'm more curious how we'd handle a tanker with oil purchased by China attempting to pass through the strait. We lifted sanctions for a month, chances are some countries bought oil that hasn't left port yet. If a tanker has legally purchased Chinese oil, do we have good options for dealing with that?

9 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please. -

I'm shocked you didn't point out how I assumed the gender of the aforementioned chinamen.

36 minutes ago, Boomer6 said:

I'm shocked you didn't point out how I assumed the gender of the aforementioned chinamen.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by 17D_guy
posting from phone and fracked it up

38 minutes ago, Boomer6 said:

I have zero SA on maritime law, so IDK if a ghost ship is legally treated the same as a chinese flagged oil tanker, or an Iranian flagged tanker etc.

I'm more curious how we'd handle a tanker with oil purchased by China attempting to pass through the strait. We lifted sanctions for a month, chances are some countries bought oil that hasn't left port yet. If a tanker has legally purchased Chinese oil, do we have good options for dealing with that?

I'm sure the administration thought this through and has a plan...

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by 17D_guy

48 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

I'm sure the administration thought this through and has a plan...

Don’t be so negative dog we uno reversed carded their blockade with our own even more dope blockade. It’s a genius move that gives us nothing but leverage and definitely isn’t gonna have a bunch of unintended consequences.

I’m tired of people making this whole thing about Trump and his administration. If it feels incoherent and made up as we go that’s just because you’re too blinded by your libtard-ness to see the genius bigger picture

19 hours ago, Pooter said:

Wrong. We live with something called the global economy

Did someone say on here that oil isn’t a global commodity?

To the rest of your rant:

Why is the US blockading Iran to ramp up economic pressure such an insane concept to you? I’d love to here a critically thought out argument against foreign policy 101, along with how you would have dealt with Iran blocking the strait and attempting to play the one card they had left to influence war outcomes in their favor.

If you haven't seen them already, the Iranian Lego propaganda films are entertaining and shocking all at the same time!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZmIOg3BibU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9DNx7xIIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfBx6GxPw_k&list=RDgfBx6GxPw_k&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJO-P0V2V0

Why would we watch Iranian propaganda? One of you's teenagers are gonna see it on your phone and tictoc that shit. Next thing, all the Zs will be crying for poor ol Persia.

As for those asking about a strategy, set goals, and a plan, this has a feel like the AFG pullout. Just do it live. Well, sorta. It went from kill the boss, bomb a bunch, that'll do it, to, oh shit, they biting back, now what? Mean tweet em to death! Crazy bastards.

2 hours ago, brabus said:

Did someone say on here that oil isn’t a global commodity?

lol it was pretty heavily implied when not a single person acknowledged there might be downsides to choking off a major global energy supply route.

“Why is the US blockading Iran to ramp up economic pressure such an insane concept to you? I’d love to here a critically thought out argument against foreign policy 101, along with how you would have dealt with Iran blocking the strait and attempting to play the one card they had left to influence war outcomes in their favor.”

Well that’s the thing about starting a stupid war of choice predicated on lies with no strategic plan.. you might end up painting yourself into a corner with only bad options. Which is where we currently find ourselves.

Yes I agree that blockading the straight is the best bad option we have right now. The point is that we never had to be in this situation in the first place. My comment is simply pushback against the trump sycophants in here pretending it’s some genius strategic move with no downsides.

Edit: Also the onus also isn’t on me to come up with a better plan. I wasn’t elected president, didn’t start this war, and have been against it the whole time.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by Pooter

10 minutes ago, Pooter said:

Well that’s the thing about starting a stupid war of choice predicated on lies with no strategic plan.. you might end up painting yourself into a corner with only bad options. Which is where we currently find ourselves.

Yes I agree that blockading the straight is the best bad option we have right now. The point is that we never had to be in this situation in the first place. My comment is simply pushback against the trump sycophants in here pretending it’s some genius strategic move with no downsides.

Are you equally critical of the Biden and Obama administrations that put us in this shitty situation?!?

Ya'll keep forgetting how we got there, and while Trump ain't no General George C. Marshall he really didn't have a lot of other options, did he?

I typically oversimplify things, but the truth is the US put its head in the sand when it came to Iran for four decades; and it was only going to get worse if nothing was done about it.

Sure, it would make more sense to have a well-thought out plan; and I sure the big brains at CENTCOM had a concept of operations gathering dust on the shelf for years; but in the immortal words of Sheriff Bud Boomer, "There's a time to think, and there's a time to act; and this gentlemen is no time to think!"

RIP, John Candy!

strategic objectives were surely achieved in the last few days 😂