1 hour ago1 hr 35 minutes ago, FourFans said:"Iranian media" is almost as credible a source as the War Thunder forums...though the forums have more accurate tech data...Do you genuinely believe the the air-to-ground curb stomping Iran is receiving is on par with the failed all-out invasion a next door neighbor by Russia? Tell me again how you aren't disgruntedemployee's troll account.From a geopolitical stance yes.We've shown we can't defend our bases abroad against drones or balastic missiles. A curbstomping doesn't cost us multiple strategic aircraft. It doesn't cost us billion dollar radar arrays. It doesn't cost us American lives. It has Displayed our weaknesses to China. We've shown the degree to which we've ostracised ourselves from our allies with most of Europe refusing over flights. We've shown that we lack any long term planning capabilities or forethought by rushing into this without having a plan for keeping the strait open. We've put iran in a stronger position as they have gone from a theoretical to actual control of the straits. Rising oil prices are increasing the funds in both Iran and Russia's pocket to continue their fight. Iranian leadership may be dead but clearly they're working decentralized ops well. There's no scenario in which we walk away from this in the near term with any meaningful victory. Blowing stuff up doesn't equal winning on the global stage.Oh and no one trusts on the world stage trusts us to negotiate anymore seeing as it was never serious and used as a pretext to prepare strikes. We had a solid deal that this admin tore up the first time. We've messaged to the world "get nukes ASAP or you're next."For the photos. A few more have come out plus some vids of a herk and Blackhawk allegedly conducting sar over Iran. I don't trust everything but there's some decent amount of reports coming out and unfortunately our propaganda arm is just as unreliable.SAR ops vids:https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2040044384951922868?s=20https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2040059365189722249?s=20b Edited 47 minutes ago47 min by No One
1 hour ago1 hr Now confirmed by the US or is that also fake news? Or is it OK to change the story now that daddy has said? Regardless of my support for this snafu I hope the crew got out.U.S. Fighter Jet Shot Down Over Iran, U.S. Officials and Iran Say Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by No One
1 hour ago1 hr Wow, this thread took off since I last checked it.I think one thing most of us can agree on is that the American people should be skeptical anytime any Administration promises a swift, clean military operation. The enemy gets a vote, and it almost always ends up more messy than promised.We’ve lost access to the Strait of Hormuz, several American lives, and billions of dollars of hardware. We have no choice but to double down now. <s>
1 hour ago1 hr https://www.thedailybeast.com/iran-shoots-down-us-f-15-fighter-in-humiliation-for-trump/
57 minutes ago57 min 2 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:https://www.thedailybeast.com/iran-shoots-down-us-f-15-fighter-in-humiliation-for-trump/At this time Foxnews.com still has their headline story being tiger Woods and it's no where on the Iran page. It's not humiliating until maga gets informed.If we're lucky Hegseth finally gets canned over this and an actual military professional steps in.
35 minutes ago35 min WSJ confirmed a shoot down but didn’t list their source. Godspeed to the crew if true.
9 minutes ago9 min 17 minutes ago, frog said:WSJ confirmed a shoot down but didn’t list their source. Godspeed to the crew if true.I guess we have an answer on the bounty. Reportedly around 60K.Mail OnlineIran puts BOUNTY on American pilots after US fighter jet...Iranian state media is incentivizing civilians to capture American pilots with a 'reward' after the regime claimed it shot down a US fighter jet.
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