The Next President is...

[lloyd christmas]

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-reports-behind-closed-doors-pope-is-focused-sharp-and-energetic

[bfargin]

The Bee!!!
 

This one might have been too soon. He’s not even buried yet. I’m not sure if I should have laughed but couldn’t keep it in.

[SpeedOfHeat]

SpeedOfHeat said: Conservatives are now pro-Constitution, unless their dear leader calls for “the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”  lol

9 hours ago, HeloDude said:

So you’re now supporting any American being able to own whatever weapon they want and no background check required?  Trust me, I’m all for going full Libertarian (yes, the party and its platform) if that’s where we can go, but if not, let’s not pretend the leftists actually ever cared about the Constitution. 

[Lord Ratner]

8 hours ago, blueingreen said:

Just gonna piggy-back off this to start a little rant, don't mind me @kaputt. Many of Trump's trade / tariff policies certainly seem impulsive and short-sighted, I just don't have the economic expertise to propose an optimal alternative, and at a certain point you just need to make a leap of faith when electing a president and hope he surrounds himself with intelligent and talented people who can help steer the ship in the right direction. 

It's clear that what we've been doing for the past 30+ years isn't working; We've hollowed out our industrial capacity, offshored American jobs, and undercut domestic labor from both ends with H1B and illegal labor. We're also leaking tons of money in the form of foreign remittances. As for principled conservatism and "center-right leadership", what have they even accomplished in the 21st century? They sat idly by and conserved absolutely nothing while our country and culture was ravaged by radical progressivism. I was just listening to the oral arguments for the Supreme Court case involving LGBT books in classrooms this morning and couldn't help but think about how far down this slope we've slipped. First it was "Leave us gay folks alone and let us do what we please in the privacy of our bedroom," which seemed fair enough. Then it was "Bake the cake for us, you Christian bigot!" After that it became "Let my son compete against your daughter in the swim meet / wrestling tournament / etc. you transphobe!" And now we're at the point where the Supreme Court is going to decide if parents have the right to opt out of school lessons on drag queens. It seems like the LGBT people can't leave everyone else alone.

I'm simply a man of the Right, and the right-leaning politicians we've elected in the recent past haven't done enough to reject the fundamentally erroneous premises that the Left has foisted upon us during their cultural ascendancy and tenure in power. I reject the premise that my country is an economic zone for the world's tired masses to benefit from. I reject the premise that every man, woman, and child on this planet is an American waiting to be "documented". People aren't owed access to my home just because it's better than the shithole they came from. The Overton Window has shifted rightwards more in the past 6 months than in the 25 years preceding that, and it wasn't because of principled conservatives like Romney, Ryan, or the Bushes. 

Fuckin' A.

[HeloDude]

9 hours ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

 

SpeedOfHeat said: Conservatives are now pro-Constitution, unless their dear leader calls for “the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”  lol

Progressives like yourself have never been pro-Constitution, unless it supports their agenda.  Conservatives have also never been pro-Constitution either.  I’m not surprised you don’t understand 

[M2]

We are getting these HAF/A1 updates at work, they are a very entertaining way to start the morning!

EO: Prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness
Synopsis: Prohibits expressing a gender identity divergent from an individual’s sex within military service. Prevents the use of invented and identification-based pronoun usage. Prohibit associated medical treatments. Provides that transgender individuals cannot satisfy the rigorous standards necessary for military service.
 
Key Info/Updates:
The Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs released “Additional Guidance on Treatment of Gender Dysphoria” (Atch 2a).

• Due to the preliminary injunction in Shilling v. United States, Military Treatment Facilities will provide gender dysphoria (GD) care to covered beneficiaries 19 years or older who have been diagnosed with GD.
• Under the Supplemental Health Care Program, service members can resume GD care, including hormone therapy and pre-surgical evaluations. 
• All previously approved and paused SHCP waivers are reinstated and affected service members should contact their providers to reschedule care. 
• Service members with paused or cancelled pre-approval SHCP requests should resubmit them.

The Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs released “Additional Guidance on Treatment of Gender Dysphoria in Minors” (Atch 2b).

• The DoD prohibits initiating or continuing puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones for individuals under the age of 19 years old who have been diagnosed with GD.
• Military medical treatment facility (MTF) providers who are currently treating affected minors must inform patients that puberty blockers must stop immediately, while cross-sex hormones can be stopped immediately or tapered. 
• MTF providers may prescribe reduced hormone dosages to facilitate tapering for up to 6-12 weeks, and extensions will require approval. 
• TRICARE formulary updates are simultaneously underway to revise prior authorization forms for cross-sex hormones to comply with the 13 Mar 2025 memorandum “Treatment of Gender Dysphoria in Minors”. 

[ClearedHot]

I don't agree with Trump on everything but it does appear he is trying to honor his core promises:

Egg prices are down - granted this was not really a function of Trump, had a lot more to do with Bird Flu but prices have fallen dramatically as egg producing flocks have rebounded.

Oil prices have also fallen - there is likely a sweet spot it should remain and we are very close.

Border crossings are WAY down (95%)

Inflation is easing and there is likely a lag as falling energy prices take a while to work through the system...next report will likely be very good.

He definitely failed on his promise to end the Ukraine War in 24 hours.

Interesting to see how the tariff issue is working out.  The market has snapped back this week, I didn't perfectly time the bottom but did reposition two weeks ago.

 

 

 

 

[Sua Sponte]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/strengthening-and-unleashing-americas-law-enforcement-to-pursue-criminals-and-protect-innocent-citizens/

Sec. 4.  Using National Security Assets for Law and Order.  (a)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of agencies as appropriate, shall increase the provision of excess military and national security assets in local jurisdictions to assist State and local law enforcement.
(b)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Attorney General, shall determine how military and national security assets, training, non-lethal capabilities, and personnel can most effectively be utilized to prevent crime.

[brabus]

Honestly what you quoted made me go, “hmmm,” but after reading the entirety I’m all about 95% of it without hesitation. Like you though, I am skeptical of the obvious point you’re highlighting; the gov best tread very lightly. FWIW, my “5%” throw-shit-at-a-wall number is because I’m accounting for the overall theme of the message (I understand one could argue it’s literally more than 5%)

[Lawman]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/strengthening-and-unleashing-americas-law-enforcement-to-pursue-criminals-and-protect-innocent-citizens/
Sec. 4.  Using National Security Assets for Law and Order.  (a)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of agencies as appropriate, shall increase the provision of excess military and national security assets in local jurisdictions to assist State and local law enforcement.
(b)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Attorney General, shall determine how military and national security assets, training, non-lethal capabilities, and personnel can most effectively be utilized to prevent crime.

No please, try and oversell this.

How many times did Biden or Obama deploy guard and active duty troops to the border? How many more times than that did state governors deploy troops to shore up the problem of migration during those administrations?

We have the border mission, you know what it’s doing? Providing Grey Eagles to law enforcement who are trying to do something about cartel drug smuggling. God forbid we use our training hours to do that instead of bore holes in the sky and stare at the dirt in a restricted area.


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[Banzai]

[Sua Sponte]

On 4/28/2025 at 9:10 PM, Lawman said:

No please, try and oversell this.

How many times did Biden or Obama deploy guard and active duty troops to the border? How many more times than that did state governors deploy troops to shore up the problem of migration during those administrations?

We have the border mission, you know what it’s doing? Providing Grey Eagles to law enforcement who are trying to do something about cartel drug smuggling. God forbid we use our training hours to do that instead of bore holes in the sky and stare at the dirt in a restricted area.


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I posted a link to an EO and a quote from the EO. I didn't know that would trigger you. 

[Banzai]

The projection, defensiveness, and grasping for straws is simultaneously hilarious and sad. Not to mention how the standard “defense” is literally whataboutism. It’s also funny how the whole group is desperately in search of “good” pieces of news to upvote and cling to, even when they aren’t good at all lmao (because let’s be honest, you guys are struggling - egg prices, really?).

It’s gotten to the point where there’s no use in feeling annoyed or upset at the obvious disconnect from reality - you just feel bad for the bros who have found themselves trapped in a cult.

There’s so many examples of this in action. Like in the last week how the cult - who was rightfully upset at Bidens mental downfall (this was bad and should be criticized) - is incapable of addressing similar behaviors in their own party. These include obvious false statements (the fact that the admin openly proclaims that egg prices are “down 93%”, that gas is less than $2 a gallon, and that groceries are “cheaper”), obvious classified leak double standards, or statements like the admin quadrupling down that Abrego Garcia’s knuckles LITERALLY say “MS 13,” not “interpreted.” 

If you’ve ever seen Beyond the Curve, it’s that. The earth must remain flat, because they can’t say it’s not without severe social repercussions.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

I challenge those of you that can to reassess some of your core assumptions and to think more critically about not just if things are true but why they are said? Why is the AG pushing a narrative that fentanyl policies literally saved a third of the population from death? Maybe it’s just a misinterpretation? Hmm.

Edited April 30 by Banzai

[lloyd christmas]

1 hour ago, Banzai said:

Words

Your moral superiority cup runneth over today.  

bravo 

[Lord Ratner]

2 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

Your moral superiority cup runneth over today.  

bravo 

Also no one here is defending any of the shit that he's crying about. Which gets to the real point, he's just upset that we don't care as much about those things as he does.

 

Combining the arguments of 30 different people, and then layering on conservative news media as though that somehow represents the views of anyone here, then combining all of that into one hyper-conservative Boogeyman, and naming it "you guys." 

 

And then getting upset that no one is willing to take up the mantle of the fictional debate opponent he's created. 

 

Like, what am I supposed to say about Pam Bondi's obviously stupid tweet? Politicians have been overstating their accomplishments for as long as I've been alive plus a few thousand years. 

 

Yawn.

[brickhistory]

Many wins chalked up, but for now, today, this is my favorite:

[Biff_T]

5 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

Many wins chalked up, but for now, today, this is my favorite:

Negative Dibs

Visual friendly, Tally tagert, right side open fire.

[TreeA10]

Dodged a couple massive bullets regarding those two.

[tac airlifter]

4 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Combining the arguments of 30 different people, and then layering on conservative news media as though that somehow represents the views of anyone here, then combining all of that into one hyper-conservative Boogeyman, and naming it "you guys." 

Well said.

Banzai your post is boring and your thoughts shallow.  Is there a specific thing you want to talk about or is this general purpose amalgam condemnation?

[17D_guy]

2 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Well said.

Banzai your post is boring and your thoughts shallow.  Is there a specific thing you want to talk about or is this general purpose amalgam condemnation?

Like you'd address it in a realistic way if he did.

[17D_guy]

On 4/21/2025 at 5:46 PM, brickhistory said:

I ask this seriously, no snark or point scoring intended:  were you aware, and if so, were you cool with Obama ordering the Hellfiring of an American citizen and his 16 year old son, even though the guy was a terrorist?  He had no due process other than a Situation Room briefing that said, "he's a bad guy."  

I'm not sorry the guy's dead, but I said then, and do now, that it was wrong.

As to your "equal branch" point, I almost agree.  Supreme Court = POTUS = full Congress vote.

I don't agree that a district court should be able to impose a nationwide anything regardless of what political party occupies the other branches.  So I hope the Supreme Court finally ends that practice once and for all.  Will be better for all.

As to a mass invasion and due process, that's a thing.  I don't have a complete answer.  But if Biden can arbitrarily let them in, why can't Trump boot them out?  Biden granted "paroles" and "temporary refugee" status to hundreds of thousands of Haitians, et al.  Why can't Trump remove that grant?

No, I hated Obama's use of drones and splattering citizens. Impeachable.

Opens the door to anyone getting called a terrorist and being disappeared...kinda like the rhetoric we're starting to hear now.

"Mass invasion" is interesting wording. We have a refugee process that should be followed and funded to operate. A Venezuela refugee fleeing a communist dictator warms my Reagan-era heart.

Non-violent illegals here wanna cut my grass, build houses and make baller tacos? I'm down, let's fund the process to make them not-illegal.

Violent ones, here and coming here? GTFO.

 

 

[17D_guy]

On 4/21/2025 at 5:05 PM, blueingreen said:

I don't know the right answer, but how do you think we should approach this situation? The previous administration ignored all rules and norms in order to import millions of foreigners who should never have been here in the first place. Giving each illegal alien the time + resources required for a deportation hearing is quite literally impossible when we're dealing with a phenomenon of this magnitude. Where / what is our recourse? If the Supreme Court says we can't deport these people without going through a process which is logistically impossible, where does that leave us? A constitutional crisis?

There's only one office forcing this to be a constitutional crisis.

The Rs have 2 of 3 levers of govt. They could fund a fast track courts to go through these quick(er). but as we saw the the R border bill in 2024, it's better to scream about it in the news than actually solve the problem.

[tac airlifter]

3 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Like you'd address it in a realistic way if he did.

 I replied to him with a specific opinion on a specific subject one page back & got no response, so your accusation is invalidated. Instead he (or she!) is creating composite narratives with which to argue; a bad faith tactic and one for which there is no need since real people with opinions are right here.

This is a fun page with lots of cool folks holding diverse perspectives yet shared experiences.  It's priceless really.  However trolls are sand in the gears and must be purged. Not saying this dude is one (you certainly aren't) but I am saying this conversational practice is a red flag, hence my sharper than normal rebuke.

 

[blueingreen]

5 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Non-violent illegals here wanna cut my grass, build houses and make baller tacos? I'm down, let's fund the process to make them not-illegal.

You're almost doing the meme! I would prefer the United States not be flooded with third world immigrants, regardless of their legal status or propensity for crime. The illegal ones certainly shouldn't be rewarded with a fast-track to permanent residency or citizenship. They should be removed swiftly. The more people from those regions come to my country, the more my country will resemble the places those immigrants are fleeing from. Naturally, I don't want that.

4 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

There's only one office forcing this to be a constitutional crisis.

The Rs have 2 of 3 levers of govt. They could fund a fast track courts to go through these quick(er). but as we saw the the R border bill in 2024, it's better to scream about it in the news than actually solve the problem.

Presenting the bipartisan border bill proposed in 2024 as a meaningful solution to the illegal immigration crisis immediately discredits you as either uninformed or bad-faith, I don't know which. Did you read the language of the bill itself or just the headlines at the time? It would have permitted thousands of daily border crossings without any enforcement mechanism, given immigration jurisdiction to partisan courts, and more.

We do have a Republican president and legislature, though. You're right about that. And the fact that they aren't working together to pump out legislation to solidify and implement the political will of the American electorate is part of the reason that I would never in a thousand years call myself a Republican or conservative.

[brabus]

19 hours ago, Banzai said:

It’s gotten to the point where there’s no use in feeling annoyed or upset at the obvious disconnect from reality - you just feel bad for the bros who have found themselves trapped in a cult.