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4 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Do you have an evidence of this?  Does anyone?  Outside Trumps ramblings there's no evidence of it.  They've lost a few lawsuits about it now.  Unless you're going to contend each of those judges is super liberal enough to disregard their oaths/jobs.  I saw 1 video on FoxNews about it that was quickly address by the Nevada election officials.

It is strange the Fox called AZ so early.  Also, cutting of counting of the mailing ballots will probably hit military voters overseas dis-proportionally.  Maybe not, I'm sure I'll see it in the news at some point.

There's evidence of states doing things their way...seems very Republican to me.

There are instances. Fleccas Twitter shows him punching in dead people's info into MI's ballot counting system and showing that they voted. You can gather what you will from these but they are definitely out there.

 

The state's rights thing, what if the Federal government mandated fast efficient elections such as FL's? Is that unconstitutional? 

2 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

Apparently Ben Shapiro debunked this and said that places such as WI have same day voter registration. Not sure of other states though. 

I'll have to watch later his stuff. 

Project V has been doing very well displaying fraud. 

 

35 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

And what do you think is going to happen when months of "Trump will steal the election!" "Mail in ballots are safe/unsafe!" etc. come to fruition? You think Antifa will sit down? You think the right is going to watch an election get stolen? 

I just don't think this will happen. ANTIFA isn't gonna do shit now that their boogeyman is gone, and the right isn't gonna do anything either. Nothing was stolen if everything was legal. Outside of a few fringe cases there will not be any evidence of systemic voter fraud. Trump will complain for a few weeks, lose court challenges and recounts, and ultimately concede (assuming Biden wins of course, which is very likely at this point).

If you want votes to stop counting right now in Nevada then Biden would be declared winner. I want Biden to win and don't even want that to happen, let the counting be finalized. 

The states have until December to finalize the tally for the EC to vote. Every legal vote should be counted.  

Same day voter registration is the missing factor for the higher number of votes than the number of registered voters on 1 Nov. From the fivethirtyeight blog:

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To give you an idea of how much same-day registration can change things, let’s look at the impact in North Carolina in 2016, as recorded in a report by the Southern Coalition for Social Justice. In that election, more than 100,000 voters registered at the same time they voted. Now, North Carolina does this a little differently than other states with same-day registration in that it only applies to early voting, not on Election Day proper. But you can see how it could easily make a big change in voter registration numbers. What’s more, at least in North Carolina, same-day registration doesn’t seem to be disproportionately used by one party or the other. In 2016, 35 percent of SDR users were Democrats, 34 percent were Republicans and 30 percent were unaffiliated. 

 

26 minutes ago, Breckey said:

The states have until December to finalize the tally for the EC to vote. Every legal vote should be counted.  

Same day voter registration is the missing factor for the higher number of votes than the number of registered voters on 1 Nov. From the fivethirtyeight blog:

 

Even if not post marked by election day? 

If they're not postmarked by election day then they aren't legal votes.

If a vote isn’t postmarked by Election Day, it doesn’t count. If a vote is postmarked by Election Day, and counted later, that is a legal vote held by the Supreme Court. Trump told his base to go to the polls and vote in person. Biden supported mail-in voting with his supporters. A lot of states stated they would count in-person votes before mail-in/absentee votes. Logic would show that a majority of Trump’s supporters would vote in person and be counted first, Biden supporters would mail-in and counted later. Which looks like that’s exactly was happening.

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2 hours ago, Breckey said:

If they're not postmarked by election day then they aren't legal votes.

It's looking like the "hanging chad" of this one is going to be legible postmarks.

Plus the dems are waiting for the rest of the dead votes to be counted. Landslide for Biden!

Nothing like a President undermining the democratic process.

14 minutes ago, bfargin said:

Plus the dems are waiting for the rest of the dead votes to be counted. Landslide for Biden!

Well, it’s only voter fraud if you’re losing, and only after 90%+ of votes are counted. But it’s not voter fraud in states you have strong leads in.

And thus ushers in one of the most racist immoral times in our countries history with Biden / Harris. Death of the American dream. Alienating the inalienable rights. Equality of outcome here we come.

4 minutes ago, Guardian said:

And thus ushers in one of the most racist immoral times in our countries history with Biden / Harris. Death of the American dream. Alienating the inalienable rights. Equality of outcome here we come.

Calm down Francis.

3 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Calm down Francis.

Shameful. Go watch the movie again.

Calm down Francis.

Very calm. Just sad at the rampant destruction that has come from the lefts, antifa, and BLM. How amazingly hateful and disgusting the dems are. It’s pretty awful.

What sense does it make to make such radical changes to the best country in the world? It’s very hard to understand why people want to tear down prosperity and equality of opportunity with racism and morally bankrupt equality of outcome.
7 minutes ago, Guardian said:


Very calm. Just sad at the rampant destruction that has come from the lefts, antifa, and BLM. How amazingly hateful and disgusting the dems are. It’s pretty awful.

What sense does it make to make such radical changes to the best country in the world? It’s very hard to understand why people want to tear down prosperity and equality of opportunity with racism and morally bankrupt equality of outcome.

You know what's also sad? Seeing a sitting President act like a toddler throwing hissy fits at pressers because he's losing, or about to lose, states claiming it was voter fraud. Remember, it's only fraud if you're losing or about to lose a state. Make sure to "stop the vote counting" if you're winning. Make sure to yell at Murdoch though, who told you he wasn't retracting the calling of Arizona. But he's probably under a lot of stress, due to all the debt he's about to owe Deutsche Bank after the election.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-deutsche-bank-exclusive/exclusive-tired-of-trump-deutsche-bank-games-ways-to-sever-ties-with-the-president-sources-idUSKBN27J0G0

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How amazingly hateful and disgusting the dems are. It’s pretty awful.

Pot meet kettle. I don't want this to devolve into whataboutism but the political discourse from the right over the last 4 years has been atrocious. 

16 minutes ago, Guardian said:

What sense does it make to make such radical changes to the best country in the world? It’s very hard to understand why people want to tear down prosperity and equality of opportunity with racism and morally bankrupt equality of outcome.

I’ve never understood this part. America is terrible and racist, with a government that oppresses women and minorities. But it should also provide everyone with an basic level of income, and all with free Universal health care, So what’s the system/model that offered all this? Where on the globe do you not have evil...

12 hours ago, FLEA said:

he has difficulty generating media coverage

it's because he has thoughtful discussions in podcast format. he's not a schreeking shill forming a club of insane-o-s like the AOC-types

2 hours ago, Guardian said:

And thus ushers in one of the most racist immoral times in our countries history with Biden / Harris. Death of the American dream. Alienating the inalienable rights. Equality of outcome here we come.

A good arguement could be made that the sitting president is the greatest acute threat to the Constitution in the entire world right now.  Is that preferable?

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