November 28, 20159 yr Highly suggest you fellas take a few and go see the safety dudes on this one.Chuck
December 7, 20159 yr On 11/28/2015, 10:08:39, Chuck17 said: Highly suggest you fellas take a few and go see the safety dudes on this one. Chuck A big '2' to that. Just... wow.
December 7, 20159 yr I'm curious as to what the 'fix' will be. Most likely another step added to a checklist.
December 7, 20159 yr Is the AIB report also complete? Those usually get released publicly... Side question: any one know where USAF publishes Class A AIB reports these days? The old site hasn't been touched since April 2014.
December 7, 20159 yr 6 hours ago, HerkPerfMan said: Is the AIB report also complete? Those usually get released publicly... Side question: any one know where USAF publishes Class A AIB reports these days? The old site hasn't been touched since April 2014. No, but it will not be far behind.
December 8, 20159 yr 19 hours ago, polcat said: I'm curious as to what the 'fix' will be. Most likely another step added to a checklist. As mentioned - go to your safety shop and do not discuss it here.
December 8, 20159 yr That's the unfortunate thing for me, no safety shop here since I'm on an exchange tour. It was actually my brother who is in the C-130J FTU who told me what happened.
December 8, 20159 yr That's the unfortunate thing for me, no safety shop here since I'm on an exchange tour. It was actually my brother who is in the C-130J FTU who told me what happened. You should be able to request your own AFSAS account in that case.
December 9, 20159 yr 18 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: You should be able to request your own AFSAS account in that case. Thanks, didn't know that.
December 10, 20159 yr I'm in a similar circumstance. Anyone wanna toss the link up here? I'll buy ya a virtual beer.
December 10, 20159 yr AFSAS is at https://afsas.af.mil. You can also search for AFSAS in the AF Portal. I just signed up for an account. And they denied my access to mishaps since I'm not a safety officer. Go figure. Edited December 10, 20159 yr by polcat Update
January 5, 20169 yr Highly suggest you fellas take a few and go see the safety dudes on this one. Chuck 3
January 6, 20169 yr We got the brief at our CT meeting yesterday. 70 guys in a room and DEAD FRIGGING SILENCE.
January 7, 20169 yr As someone who flies but is not military aircrew, I'm naturally curious as to what went wrong. Any insight as to when/where info might be made publicly available? The AF FOIA page was mentioned above, but it (as also mentioned) hasn't been updated in some time. Not asking for anyone to share privileged info, but it sounds like there could be some takeaways from this.
January 7, 20169 yr Accident Investigation Board results will be available in the future. SIBs are completed first, then the AIB convenes to assign blame/fault. SIBs are restricted for educational use only to prevent future mishaps. Sometimes, SIBs contain info or research which if got out could make manufacturers or other companies involved liable. In order for them to cooperate, they must have the assurance that the results will not be made public/cause them legal troubles. Most companies (no first hand experience) will work with the SIB then STFU when the AIB comes a knockin'.
January 8, 20169 yr On 12/10/2015 at 7:43 AM, polcat said: AFSAS is at https://afsas.af.mil. You can also search for AFSAS in the AF Portal. I just signed up for an account. And they denied my access to mishaps since I'm not a safety officer. Go figure. I talked to a guy at the safety center in the not too distant past and the impression I got was they are trying to crack down/control release of sensitive information to essentially safety coded personnel. Apparently too much finds its way into the wild......shocked face.. Of course depending on if any "controversial" information that may be found in any SIB, especially if it relates to any potential human error seems to eventually come out.....I too am curious when/where the AIB will be released so all sectors of aviation may benefit.
January 8, 20169 yr 17 hours ago, xaarman said: SIBs are restricted for educational use only to prevent future mishaps. LOL
January 8, 20169 yr 5 hours ago, Day Man said: LOL Sorry bro, I know that's the "intent" of the rule for our non military guest asking....
January 8, 20169 yr That statement should have an * affixed to it "not applicable when MAJCOM/CC is a D-bag".
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