17D_guy Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 From an outsiders perspective: reverse the logic and determine why an Officer is not driving (or at least being required to be operating): Tanks, MRAPs, Army Helos, Army UAVs, Boats, Subs, etc... How was it determined that those skills/responsibilities should not be forced on an O? Is it the cost of weapon? The potential impact of errors? The skill set? Oh, I thought we were talking about the Air Force RPAs. I mean if we're going to base it off other services, why need a college degree for commission (Army), where's Officer Country (Navy) and why not 2 different PT tests a year (Marines)? Doesn't matter what other services do. We aren't on boats, and we don't count the people as equipment. We're the Air Force. We do things different because we are different. Have you spent extended time (yr+) joint? Using the Army as an example is...questionable at best. Again - In the end, Big Blue wants the Officer attitude and culture in RPA's. That and pilots only listen to other dudes/chicks in flight suits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Officers may not be physically driving ships or subs, but the 18 year old helmsman sure isn't there to make critical decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
338skybolt Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 This could go in a handful of threads, I'll put it here: ERAU offers new masters program in drone warfare http://nypost.com/2013/09/17/college-to-offer-masters-degree-in-drone-warefare/?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Couldn't decide where to put this (Welsh thread, here, or other places) so I figure'd I'd put it here: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/09/17/welsh-f22-flew-to-drones-rescue-off-iran-coast.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl "F-22 rescues MQ-1 in Arabian Gulf." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scudrunner12 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 "...the F-22s were simply taking part in a scheduled deployment" They are holding air shows on a regular basis in southwest Asia now? I'm confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooter Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 "...the F-22s were simply taking part in a scheduled deployment" They are holding air shows on a regular basis in southwest Asia now? I'm confused... Of course, only the CONUS airshows were affected by sequestration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Drone pilots really don't get respect... We built drones to take the pilot out of the situation. Then send up an F-22 to protect it. I like it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Driver Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Again - In the end, Big Blue wants the Officer attitude and culture in RPA's. Perfect. And what the hell is that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 AAD & PME first, flying second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Davies Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Seems as good a place to post this as any. Not sure whether you can get this abroad, but this is a fairly interesting monologue about the psychology of UAS operations. Interesting that they called it the box. I am guessing that his community doesn't use STS. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24522150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Seems as good a place to post this as any. Not sure whether you can get this abroad, but this is a fairly interesting monologue about the psychology of UAS operations. Interesting that they called it the box. I am guessing that his community doesn't use STS. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24522150 Couldn't get the whole deal, but could see this snippet: Lt Col Bruce Black said that there was a separation between one reality and the other: "When you are sitting in the box flying one of these things, you lose sense of the fact you are sitting in Nevada." Why do people say things like this? It's not some cosmic alternate reality machine; it definitely feels like you're sitting in Nevada in front of some computers with the crappiest radio ever fielded, all the time. I don't care how involved you are with the mission, it's not plugging into the matrix. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I am guessing that his community doesn't use STS. The AF is stamping out fighter culture everywhere it possibly can, and vilifying it where it can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Why do people say things like this? Gotta sell yourself for that next promotion. That's tough to do without going full retard. And you're the last to realize that you have, in fact, gone full retard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwatch Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Gotta sell yourself for that next promotion. That's tough to do without going full retard. And you're the last to realize that you have, in fact, gone full retard. But he's retired. The lines of reality are more easily blurred for some I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosepileit Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) The Military Could Use Your Help Looking for a Drone It Lost in Lake Ontario BetaBeat By Jordan Valinsky 11 hours ago A $4 million military drone plopped out of the sky into Lake Ontario and now nobody can find it. The National Guard reported that one of its flying robots plummeted into the eastern part of the lake around 1 p.m. yesterday, but had to give up searching for it because of bad weather.http://news.yahoo.com/military-could-help-looking-drone-lost-lake-ontario-144230402.html Edited November 14, 2013 by moosepileit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 The Military Could Use Your Help Looking for a Drone It Lost in Lake Ontario BetaBeat By Jordan Valinsky 11 hours ago A $4 million military drone plopped out of the sky into Lake Ontario and now nobody can find it. The National Guard reported that one of its flying robots plummeted into the eastern part of the lake around 1 p.m. yesterday, but had to give up searching for it because of bad weather. http://news.yahoo.com/military-could-help-looking-drone-lost-lake-ontario-144230402.html Somwhere there's a pack of Civil Air Patrol guys that have been wet dreaming about this day for years. I can't imagine their excitement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 A $4 million military drone plopped out of the sky into Lake Ontario and now nobody can find it. The National Guard reported that one of its flying robots plummeted into the eastern part of the lake around 1 p.m. yesterday, but had to give up searching for it because of bad weather. A dozen Roombas are standing by to provide counseling to those who knew anyone involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HercDude Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 A dozen Roombas are standing by to provide counseling to those who knew anyone involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Forget the Airline hiring boom: An industry commissioned study last spring predicted more than 70,000 jobs would develop in the first three years after Congress loosens restrictions on U.S. skies. The same study projects an average salary range for a drone pilot between $85,000 and $115,000. Oh and.... But instead of tapping their fingers on a controller, they're learning to fly the plane and use onboard equipment that includes a camera with a zoom lens as they continue their studies on their $150,000 course. $150,000!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522653/Hundreds-students-studying-fly-UAVs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 http://m.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/06/23/stop-saying-uh-oh-while-youre-flying-drone-crash-pilot-quotes-unveiled/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Pretty much how I saw RPA flying going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Solid WTF to the fact that they released names of dudes in units that are overseas, sensitive, and/or routinely deployable. Protected from FOIA release under 10 USC 130 b? Who cares. Edited June 24, 2014 by SurelySerious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKinnear Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Solid WTF to the fact that they released names of dudes in units that are overseas, sensitive, and/or routinely deployable. Protected from FOIA release under 10 USC 130 b? Who cares. Big 2 to releasing the names, whether or not it came from the AIB vs SIB. It's tough enough getting crews to open up in the "White hat" SIB, now we have to deal with this. Thanks media! Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Davies Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks media! Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Copy. It's the media's fault that your employer has released names into the public domain in direct contravention of its own rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdro Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Copy. It's the media's fault that your employer has released names into the public domain in direct contravention of its own rules. Sure, someone in the AF messed up by releasing the names, but does having the name of the pilot really add any value to the average reader of that article? "WTF just happen" - Capt Bob M. Smith, USAF vs "WTF just happen" - MQ-1 Pilot, Capt, USAF There is real damage done to those people who were named, even if it was legal, and I argue it added nothing to the value or message of the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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