July 9, 20187 yr On 7/7/2018 at 11:09 PM, YoungnDumb said: AF answer- let's spend as much money as we can on a pointless cup that probably won't work but will involve 69 congressional districts Common sense answer- tell your people to put their drinks in a bottle with a cap. Government approved solution$.
July 9, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, Fuzz said: Just remember we could still be part of the Army. As someone currently assigned to an Army unit - I'm not surprised at all. How anyone does 20 in that branch is beyond me.
July 9, 20187 yr How anyone goes past their initial commitment in that branch is beyond me.I’ve met some Army O-6s who probably couldn’t keep a job managing a Taco Bell, so the pay/job security probably keeps some in.
July 9, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, ihtfp06 said: I’ve met some Army O-6s who probably couldn’t keep a job managing a Taco Bell, so the pay/job security probably keeps some in. Same applies to the USAF.
July 9, 20187 yr Same applies to the USAF.Nah. An Air Force Colonel with an honorable service characterization could clearly manage an Apple store.
July 9, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, ihtfp06 said: I’ve met some Army O-6s who probably couldn’t keep a job managing a Taco Bell, so the pay/job security probably keeps some in. You didn't have to drop the 🎤 so hard. Daaaaaaamn! Edited July 9, 20187 yr by HarleyQuinn
July 9, 20187 yr New Pilot Shortage interview with NPR https://www.npr.org/2018/07/07/626800470/air-force-faces-pilot-shortage.
July 10, 20187 yr 17 hours ago, ihtfp06 said: Nah. An Air Force Colonel with an honorable service characterization could clearly manage an Apple store. I think a better example would be a USAF O-6 would be an excellent manager of a Radio Shack...
July 10, 20187 yr Was just chatting with a coworker today about Air Force issues. For the past decade plus, the military had been in a situation where they felt they had too many folks. The common response to complaints was, "Well, if you don't like it, then get out!" Now, the military has too few folks, and they're starting to realize that they need to start fixing the things that folks complain about in order to keep people in service. The Air Force in particular has had an extremely difficult time transitioning from the "then get out!" mentality. Rather than realize that folks are in fact voting with their feet, the Air Force just tries to throw more money at them rather than deal with the real issues and complaints that folks have.
July 10, 20187 yr They’re not even really trying to throw more money. $35k/yr barely brings the bonus in line with inflation.
July 10, 20187 yr 30 minutes ago, The_Vandall said: Rather than realize that folks are in fact voting with their feet, the Air Force just tries to throw more money at them rather than deal with the real issues and complaints that folks have. But the AF isn’t throwing money at anyone...
July 10, 20187 yr 34 minutes ago, ThreeHoler said: They’re not even really trying to throw more money. $35k/yr barely brings the bonus in line with inflation. Agreed. $35K is not enough. I believe they tried to raise it higher ($42K or $45K I think), but it still wouldn't be enough. The insidious part of the bonus though is the ADSC that comes with it. For whatever reason, the Air Force seems to feel like it is perfectly fine to F over folks that are stuck with an ADSC.
July 10, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: They asked for $60k a year and were denied. John McCain thinks we get paid enough. He is the reason why the costs we pay out of pocket to cover rental housing expenses are increasing to what, 5% next year.
July 10, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: They asked for $60k a year and were denied. John McCain thinks we get paid enough. Back in McCain's day, you could just draft people to fill the gaps.
July 10, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, pawnman said: Back in McCain's day, you could just draft people to fill the gaps. Or you cheat on your wife to marry an millionaire heiress.
July 10, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, pawnman said: Back in McCain's day, you could just draft people to fill the gaps. The IPs at Corpus still chuckle to this day about him having to crash in the Corpus Christi Bay and almost drowning. I would have never heard about this happening if it weren't for those guys. And he didn't know his emergency procedures on his solo. Who needs to know that crap?
July 11, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: They asked for $60k a year and were denied. John McCain thinks we get paid enough. The McCain excuse is nearing an end, if not already there. McCain had decades of service, but his time is at an end. If the AF brass really wanted to push for more money for pilots, they could do it again. McCain doesn't even vote anymore due to his illness. The party line is still that a $35K pilot bonus is enough. It will be interesting to see the take rates when they start coming out. The will be abysmal and continue the trend of being lower than the previous year's take rate.
July 11, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, MDDieselPilot said: Ironic on his part.. inflation adjusted, we get paid less than he did to fly. At least all of my flights have ended with me sleeping in either my own bed or a hotel. I’ve never stayed at Hilton that I wasn’t free to leave the next day. But yeah, he does seem to think we’re overpaid as it is.
July 11, 20187 yr On 7/9/2018 at 8:41 PM, ihtfp06 said: I’ve met some Army O-6s who probably couldn’t keep a job managing a Taco Bell, so the pay/job security probably keeps some in. As one currently working with Big Green and International Green: I think you're right...and those guys are still head-and-should above some of their international cohorts. I've seen several "leaders" here who couldn't hold down a job taking out the trash...anywhere...validated because I've witnessed them fail at that exact task...repeatedly. Yes, it could be worse.
July 11, 20187 yr Group exec submits two CGO packages for the Group. Other squadrons submit one package per unit. Group gets called out by awards board personnel. Group exec is triggered by my email. Email is fired off by Group exec saying the Gp/CC ultimately determines the winner for each category of packages. He said, "It's not fair these individuals at the Group have not been considered for any awards for a year. They don't have a squadron." Why the hell are you wasting my time grading these packages if the Gp/CC can do whatever he wants? I got other crap I could be doing. Edited July 11, 20187 yr by HarleyQuinn
July 11, 20187 yr 7 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said: Group exec... Humble, compassionate, and un-selfish. Clearly the man we want leading tomorrow's Air Force. "Streamlined Gp awards process; 69 manhours saved! Definitely Promote" Edited July 11, 20187 yr by FourFans130
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