What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Guardian]

Dude, it all makes perfect sense.  You just need to spend some time in the NSA vault in Maryland.  

Classified Sword fight!!!!! 🤺


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[Homestar]

Cliffs Notes:

Root Cause 1: The airlines are hiring like mad.

Root Cause 2: Demographic trends make it hard to be a military pilot.

Root Cause 3: We have been in a steady-state of crisis for 15+ years.

Root Cause 4: Despite that ongoing state of war, we have been under constant budget pressure and our job security has been at risk.

Second Order Cause 1: Military Pilots do shockingly little flying.

Second Order Cause 2: It isn’t about the money, but the Air Force made it about the money.

Second Order Cause 3: The Air Force organizational structure is not designed to retain pilots if they are not tracking to command and promotion to senior management ranks.

Second Order Cause 4: The Air Force personnel and manpower apparatus lacks the ability to maintain the “right” number of pilots at the “right” experience level.

 

I'm actually thinking of copy/pasting this and emailing it to Gen Everhart's suggestions box.

[cantfly]

12 minutes ago, Homestar said:

Cliffs Notes:

Root Cause 1: The airlines are hiring like mad.

Root Cause 2: Demographic trends make it hard to be a military pilot.

Root Cause 3: We have been in a steady-state of crisis for 15+ years.

Root Cause 4: Despite that ongoing state of war, we have been under constant budget pressure and our job security has been at risk.

Second Order Cause 1: Military Pilots do shockingly little flying.

Second Order Cause 2: It isn’t about the money, but the Air Force made it about the money.

Second Order Cause 3: The Air Force organizational structure is not designed to retain pilots if they are not tracking to command and promotion to senior management ranks.

Second Order Cause 4: The Air Force personnel and manpower apparatus lacks the ability to maintain the “right” number of pilots at the “right” experience level.

 

I'm actually thinking of copy/pasting this and emailing it to Gen Everhart's suggestions box.

Make sure you start your email off with "BLUF." If you don't, you will get a response from him or one of his exes with a cc sent to your CC about proper decorum and using BLUF in emails.

I saw BLUF in an email sent to the OG and the deputies the other day. I couldn't stop LMAO because I never begin my emails to them with BLUF. I include all the details in plain writing so one of our non flying deputies will understand. 

Edited May 3, 2017 by cantfly

[VMFA187]

51 minutes ago, cantfly said:

There are no vaults at the agency. Try calling the buildings there SCIFs. There is a huge difference between a building that's a SCIF and a building with a vault. They don't have a single person with a flight suit running through the buildings there and none of the squadron CCs are pilots .So you haven't been at liberty to see what I have in my 18 year career. When you have to take a polygraph and PASS to get access to the building in order to find out what I know, then we can talk more....truth.

If a Tact Airlifter needs access to TS, then we are all in trouble.

I may be the only one of this mindset, but does anyone here really care to set foot in that building? If there isn't a single person with a flight suit running around, there isn't a single reason I want to be in there.

[matmacwc]

People that know real things know they cannot brag about it, you under estimate most of us.

[Guardian]

Not me! I'm pretty stupid.


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[Duck]

People know me... I'm a pretty big deal...


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[matmacwc]

Fuck that, I'm the boss, everyone knows me.

[Cooter]

2 hours ago, gearpig said:

Surely there is some part of you that wants to take a polygraph, if only to impress people on the internet.

[Clark Griswold]

4 hours ago, Homestar said:

Cliffs Notes:

Root Cause 1: The airlines are hiring like mad.

Root Cause 2: Demographic trends make it hard to be a military pilot.

Root Cause 3: We have been in a steady-state of crisis for 15+ years.

Root Cause 4: Despite that ongoing state of war, we have been under constant budget pressure and our job security has been at risk.

Second Order Cause 1: Military Pilots do shockingly little flying.

Second Order Cause 2: It isn’t about the money, but the Air Force made it about the money.

Second Order Cause 3: The Air Force organizational structure is not designed to retain pilots if they are not tracking to command and promotion to senior management ranks.

Second Order Cause 4: The Air Force personnel and manpower apparatus lacks the ability to maintain the “right” number of pilots at the “right” experience level.

I'm actually thinking of copy/pasting this and emailing it to Gen Everhart's suggestions box.

Not a bad article, similar to points made in other articles but cracking the edifice of stagnation, stubbornness, delusion and intransigence will take multiple hammer blows of common sense arguments, data and public humiliation of AF HR management of late.

Would have added to his Root Causes:  

The AF went expensive on the planes, cheap on Airmen; pitting human capitol for machine capitol. An apples for oranges trade that made multiple problems (cultural, force structure, loss of institutional respect/trust, etc...).  

Edited May 4, 2017 by Clark Griswold

[17D_guy]

4 hours ago, cantfly said:

Make sure you start your email off with "BLUF." If you don't, you will get a response from him or one of his exes with a cc sent to your CC about proper decorum and using BLUF in emails.

I saw BLUF in an email sent to the OG and the deputies the other day. I couldn't stop LMAO because I never begin my emails to them with BLUF. I include all the details in plain writing so one of our non flying deputies will understand. 

I know the BLUF emails get hate on here.  But having to deal with the current crop of Maj-Cols (sometimes 1-stars) and (MSgts-E9) that won't just get to the point, I understand why they now exist.  So many "Commanders" want to have a discussions about a problem and solution they're not going to own any part of.  So, we've got to sit there for 40 min while they hash it out, talking past each other with no resolution but tons of quibbling and requests for guidance, prioritization and pointing out where provided written guidance is lacking.

Ugh, I hate this job.  I told you guys our "cyber operators" get crew rest for a 5 hour sortie, right?

I generally just tell my Airman to give me the information in tweet length and problem solved.

[dream big]

5 hours ago, cantfly said:

There are no vaults at the agency. Try calling the buildings there SCIFs. There is a huge difference between a building that's a SCIF and a building with a vault. They don't have a single person with a flight suit running through the buildings there and none of the squadron CCs are pilots .So you haven't been at liberty to see what I have in my 18 year career. When you have to take a polygraph and PASS to get access to the building in order to find out what I know, then we can talk more....truth.

If a Tact Airlifter needs access to TS, then we are all in trouble.

Are you retarded? You clearly know zero about tac airlift or anything for that matter.  Go with quals, besides the NSA d*** measuring; or do us all a favor and STFU

[BashiChuni]

Uh he's gonna have to be in a vault to say his quals.... he knows ts info guys. This is a big deal. 

[Lawman]

Surely there is some part of you that wants to take a polygraph, if only to impress people on the internet.

I do t k ow why you would need that or all this other access.

According to him all you need to do is grow up "next too" an Army base and you'll know all the details of how Attack Aviation works and it's shortcomings.

That's how despite no actual experience I know how to assemble a GMC Sierra pickup. There was a GM plant in the town I grew up in.


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[Duck]

I remember when I got my TS...


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[VMFA187]

11 minutes ago, Duck said:

I remember when I got my TS...


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I feel like you may be my kindred AF spirit.

[FUSEPLUG]

Oh my God this is boring!  Can we get back to the AF sport-bitching already?!

[tk1313]

Toro incoming...

[Guardian]

This stuff is falling exactly in line with the title of the post. I bet a lot of shit would get worked out if we were physically in the same place with some beers and zero retribution. People are afraid to fight but not afraid to post anonymous stuff. And regardless of which side you're on, we all let it happen.


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[cantfly]

7 minutes ago, Guardian said:

This stuff is falling exactly in line with the title of the post. I bet a lot of shit would get worked out if we were physically in the same place with some beers and zero retribution. People are afraid to fight but not afraid to post anonymous stuff. And regardless of which side you're on, we all let it happen.


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A man speaking the truth...word.

[Toro]

All bitches, dudes, bros, FGOs and wiggers go back to your corners.  cantfly is in time out, redirect all bitching towards the AF.

[Guest]

All bitches, dudes, bros, FGOs and wiggers go back to your corners.  cantfly is in time out, redirect all bitching towards the AF.

I wonder what his new screen name is going to be. It'll be easy enough to ID him. He'll be the guy liking his own posts and disliking anyone who offends his tender sensibilities.


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Back to the topic, I think the AF really needs to stop picking future GOs on the basis of early "excellence." There are probably a handful of bros who land SOS DG, but I imagine they're in the minority and probably most punch out and never make it to any position of influence to enact change. We keep promoting yes-men who would never dare to challenge the status quo.


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[Guardian]

Back to the topic, I think the AF really needs to stop picking future GOs on the basis of early "excellence." There are probably a handful of bros who land SOS DG, but I imagine they're in the minority and probably most punch out and never make it to any position of influence to enact change. We keep promoting yes-men who would never dare to challenge the status quo.


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The Peter principle. Read the fogleman chat posts.


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[Weezer]

18 minutes ago, ihtfp06 said:

Back to the topic, I think the AF really needs to stop picking future GOs on the basis of early "excellence." There are probably a handful of bros who land SOS DG, but I imagine they're in the minority and probably most punch out and never make it to any position of influence to enact change. We keep promoting yes-men who would never dare to challenge the status quo.


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I think evidence of risking one's professional advancement to do the right thing should be required.  Looking into flag officers generally regarded as "great:"

As a captain, MacArthur had his first Medal of Honor denied because his boss didn't know what he was doing.  As a captain, Eisenhower was threatened with court martial for aggressively advocating tank-centric tactics that looked a lot like Germany's successful blitzkreig scheme.  Nimitz was court-martialed as an ensign for running his ship aground.  George Washington gave advice to his general in the French and Indian War that essentially got him killed.

Mistakes and risks are what make a leader better, and should be forgiven (when they aren't crimes, of course), and rewarded (when appropriate).  Most importantly, they should be learned from.