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It appears that we do not have in possession of the FDR and CVR and the locals are going to give it to the Russians to read. It sounds like the State Dept defering to everyone except us. On a second thought, it was fortunate that it crashed in a open area, if one civilian or farm animal died we would be packing up Manas to the AOR. Never trust a Krgy!! https://www.eurasianet.org/node/66935

What it looks like on a C-17. Now on a 747

Looking at the vertical stab, just wondering how far from the crash scene it is and also the rudder which was missing. Only 2 milk bottle pins hold the the stab on the jet, if the bushings were worn I bet this jet would have had autopilot problems of constantly kicking off but unable to duplicate in the chocks.Seen it before. Also the rudder actuator could cause a stab departure if defective. Uncommanded input. Old pilot told me once you can land without a vertical stab but could not takeoff.

Knowing Krgys cops he was probably looking for a survivor to charge a landing fee or shake down the photographer.

Does anybody know how the winds and turbulence are around Manas this time of year? Those mountains Tien Shen peek out at 19000 ft. Know a bunch of tanker dudes when I was in the AOR using OAMS as a ops stop for fuel before heading back to Manas during the runway repairs. BTW Manas is still a shitty runway.

Most bases besides Bagram have MOG issues especially when you super heavies on the ramp, anytime you have a A330, AN-124's, C-5's and 747's it fills the ramp quick . At OAMS we could only have one on the ramp one time when I was there last year or we parked you outside the wire on the old runway. Plus POL issues you usually only had two R-11 drivers on duty which turned a transoceanic trip fuel load into a 6 hour affair and these NAC guys knew this so they went to Bagram for a large top off. We always passed on to TACC our POL limitations and of course I had better luck trying to get a pig to sing.

It checks if they came from Bastion, POL support at most bases is usually less than 80K 2 trucks than you have to wait for a hour due to the trucks have to refill, easier to get a large upload at Bagram. It also matters if you get there and a C-5 or C-17 is taking a big upload which leaves nothing for you and fighting crew rest issues.

All it takes is one tie down not done correctly. At OAMS I've seen USAF ATOC personnel walk away from a NAC bird due to some shady stuff being done refusing to be part of it to protect themselves.

Grapevine speculation on over rotation, I would look hard at the form F , the TCN's they have loading are not known for following standards. Maybe a load shift to aft CG.

Probably worked that tail number numerous times when it passed through OAMS which goes hand in hand with knowing the crew members. They have been moving allot of MRAPS out of theater and other up armored vehicles putting them on cookie sheets compared to a 463L pallet. RIP.

Ancient history but this crash reminds of this one.https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jomalley.htm

Chuck Norris was in the Air Force so all other branch's are invalid!!

#1 reason to become a USAF pilot is because these guys are honor bound to get you home if you become a pedestrian. https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTc_lkuJWE8xeR3pJAXtYUQtcHFIvinKS9t9UPg2ZTSQZauz4Lr

Number 1 reason for not joining the Navy, that stupid looking hat.

I find it interesting that the US AIR team will run the new airline with the AA CEO as chairman. My brother is a A&P line mx guy at ORD and he told me most of AA's unions worked with US Air to help make this possible. The management team and worker bees have been in a loveless marriage since the first concessions were voted for and then all the executives to huge bonus's. Over 900 acft fleet, that will be a lot of MD-80's being parked when their D check is due. I'm sure Boeing is cutting deals so they can dump the technical support for the MD-80's.

If we managed our WW2 officers like this Eisenhower would have been rotated out after the invasion of Sicily and Patton would have never seen Sicily, and Nimitz would have been done after Midway.

So the cost of a OPR bullet is over a billion now. Did the DB at least get promoted fort signing off on this. Can somebody explain to me why some officers have to reinvent the wheel when they get into a position to implement shit like this.

Lets just get to the point of this whole argument, some female officers were suing the DOD because of the combat restrictions and glass ceiling they encounter when it comes to a combat command slot and promotions. Yes there are women who can qualify and get through the training but would they destroy their body and forced out on a medical discharge before their 30th birthday. Fiscally it does not make sense due to the medical costs incurred by this. I seen women work in supply and acft mx and their bodies were a mess due to wear and tear before they were 30. Since we are in these fiscally short era it would make sense to make the fitness standards the same across the board regardless of gender. I am a 50 year old male who can score in the 90's with the current USAF standards for a my age group. I looked at a under 30 group of female standards and the run was identical to mine where a 30 and under year old male gets slammed hard if runs over a 9:12. If we equalize the standards with pass or out the door just think of the money we save in long term personnel costs.

Hey! Don't forget forget all the support jobs when it comes to the PT test or physical standards, if I got to do X number of repetitions of a exercise and run a certain time for my age why does it have to gender specific. Sit ups or push ups should be equal and stop telling men we are stronger and faster and should do more than women. Lets make all weight,height and physical standards in all the same in all the branches. Equality!!!!

The 8th lost more men flying out of England than the Marines lost in the whole Pacific theater.

OK, I went to 6 different stores in the OKC metro just to buy some .22 LR. None to be found anywhere. Who is hoarding it? I just wanted to go plinking with my son and could not find any. Is everybody panic buying every time BHO, Cuomo and Bloomberg find a microphone?