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They did! They both got jobs away from the evil whiteys and got assigned to the EO office.

If it makes you feel any better they are parking KC-135R's at AMARC now. I am hearing rumors that some E-3's will be parked also so if want to go a plane that seems that won't get retired maybe the Commemorative Air Force is for you.

I remember as a young SSgt back in the 89th he came out to look at my C-137B with the Wing CC to ask questions about the jet for research for his next book 'Cardinal of the Kremlin". My mx crew and Tom had long visit, with Tom doing most of the questioning just sucking up everything we told him. I claim that as one of the highlights of my career, most of the info we told him made it into the book, in the book he embellished though by saying the Crew Chief "me" was a SMSGT that could teach manners to a linebacker. I liked the way he wrote that though.

Back in the early 80's at EGUN we had our Wing CC request in the base newspaper that everybody shave of their mustache before a ORI, remember a mustache out of regs means the Taliban win. Just wondering if Kandahar has been attacked since he has taken the job.

If I had to work on that Lockheed flying piece of shite I would be in a foul mood also, I'll take Buffs in ND then A C-5 in Dover. Also if your getting attitude you might be talking to dudes at a enroute i.e. Hawaii where its a good place to be broke for mx .In my day we preferred to break at Clark AB. Unlike Bagram where if you get the engines started to get some airspeed over the wings your going. Got nothing but kudos for my 737-400's and NG's I work on now.

It happens the other way too, back in the 90's in AWACS there were enlisted weapons controllers until they decided to make the officers rated and we all know enlisted can't be rated and do the same job. So if drone pilots are rated now does that make it impossible for enlisted to be ever pilots of anything? Another point would it be better to have enlisted pilots who would stay in the job and become very proficient for a long period compared to a officer on the command career track. In a other AFSC's like air traffic controller they have officer controllers but they do the bare minimum to stay qualified due to leadership responsibilities and the enlisted do the heavy lifting so there is the model we need maybe to look at. Compared to Army Aviation the officers fly but just to stay qualified even in the AOR where the CWO's fly the majority of the missions.

Little long but informative. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TqtCOxeGAHE

You have a point.

I saw a lot of joint staff and Presidential White House staff cookies on those GO's, btw who is the first one with those pretty brown eyes? Most 20+ year MSgt's who deployed their butt off would have a bigger ribbon racks than these guys.

This is a failure at so many levels before he/she even got a hold of classified information. His/her behavior was probably noticed in basic and just passed along as somebody's else's problem. This is what happens when the Army is just taking anybody to fill the ranks.

Glad the seas were fairly calm and it was August and not February.

Thank you for correcting me. What was the cause of this incident? As you can tell my writing skills for a SNCO are sub par due to lack of practice. All I did was deploy and do my job.

Saw a T-38 do a GEAR up landing at Tinker, it was doing touch and go's at Will Rogers and one the main landing gear struts departed the aircraft on the runway at KOKC but was able to recover then performed a gear up landing at KTIK. Surprised that this doesn't happen more often, the T-38's landing gear is quite fragile considering how students pound on them everyday. The plane was put on a flat bed truck and trucked back to Vance the next day.

Well sitting the jump seat on many 707/135, B-52 landings that looked effortless compared to the stick inputs on approach on a old Boeing.

Came across this of a Lufthansa A380 doing a landing at SFO, its long but it shows the complete automation of the landing. https://www.wimp.com/approachlanding/

In my 23 year career I worked with good and the bad when it came to officers, being in MX I have had my share of knuckleheads. I have also worked with men I would lay down in traffic for. The only way as a military to get rid of these sexual deviants especially if they are they are in the chain of command is to be able to report to someone outside the chain who has the power to prosecute and investigate. If this keeps going our civilian leadership will impose something that none of us will like. I have also seen our in place system also work costing a former 552 ACW Wing CC his star and career, but nobody remembers the million successes just the failures.

Well if your not being a sexual predator on your troops you should be OK but if the chain of command of the abused are the abusers what do you think of a rape victim should do then? This definitely will not look good on the wing ppt slides.

Not to be officer bashing but its time to totally get the chain of command out of the justice system and have a separate all civilian legal branch for the DOD only answerable to the SECDEF. But on a side note how do field grade,flag grade officers and SNCO's expect to lead troops when the enlisted guys don't neither trust nor respect the ones appointed over them. Without trust in this business you have nothing, might as well join the corporate world and wear slacks and polo shirt and screw everyone around you to get to the top.

Work at KOKC, told to beat feet when a tornado touched down at El Reno which is due west from the airport. Wiley Post had traffic divert to us at Will Rogers.

I used to live in Moore, I believe my old house is gone along with a horse farm which most of the animals had to be put down. There was a school with 3rd graders and younger that took a hit and the kids are not accounted for. I got chased into a shelter for 3 separate warning's going off today. I believe we are going to have mass causalities maybe bigger than the May 3rd 1999 tornado.

Lets see murderous Islamist or a murderous Tyrant. Is it possible that we can help both sides totally eradicate each other just short of nuclear weapons.

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