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Thats what you get when you have a uniform wear tested by a bunch of AFMC office workers.

Definitely they have Caravans, their new builds have come thru TIK from Wichita for a gas and go on their way to Florida for mods, can't comment on the 172's.

Well I started it out "the old story".

Sounds like the old story of how the Russians were looking to solve the problem of a pen that writes in zero gravity. NASA spent thousands and the Russians solved it by using a pencil.

Came across this link of some pictures and transcript of yesterdays launch at Vandenburg. Looking at the pictures I am wondering the pucker factor of the launch controller who had his finger on a self destruct button. Looking at the pics on the link you can see a fire at a seam on one of the external boosters and later you see a fire just above one of the engines. Hopefully there are some guys with knowledge with these monsters on this forum. http://www.spaceflightnow.com/delta/d352/status.html

Word of caution from a father who has been there and done that, I hanged some planes in my sons room and they did not make it through one deployment while was gone. Kids being curious will want to touch and play with said planes. I suggest if you can find them maybe an indestructable star wars toys hanging up there, they are built to be handled by 3 year old boys. My suggestion is to get some fishing line and picture hooks and tie the fishing line to the landing gear and hang them nose high at 12 oclock with landing gear resting on the wall along the top of the wall like a border. It comes out good and should last until they are 6 when they figure out they can throw stuff and shoot down acft and make them go boom. Oops it is easier with tail draggers to put the tail at 12 oclock along the wall.

Thank you, info is power.

Technically wouldn't it be in Pashtun even though most of them are illiterate maybe Arabic for those hard core Al Quieda still left in the theater.

I remember back in the late 80's guys going to do C-12 jobs trained mx/ops at ADW to get certified on the C-12, is that how its still done?

If they open up the infantry will they make them also sign up for selective service ( the draft)on their 18th birthday before they can apply for anything with the word Federal in front of it. Yes I am for equal opertunity but also equal standards. Equal standards for any AFSC or MOS.

Took care of him 2 years ago during our bases airshow, he told me he had only had a few flights left with the heritage flight then. I think the FAA or USAF has max age requirement on that type of flying.

Another one

Doesn't AAFES have a price beat or match program to beat anything off base?

CWO's that would be great for alot of AF MSgts that don't play the Chief game of stabbing thy fellow Airman in the back. By the time you make MSgt you don't touch a toolbox again unless your in Gaurd/Reserve. Sounds like a good way to keep guys around who know how to get shit done. How is the USN/USMC QA program, does it get tasked by Sq CC's or or the Air Wing, do you staff it with competent troops or little pricks you want to get rid of. Alot of USAF MX officers are prior E's who came out of mx but some of them have no mx background when a 7 level NCO is explaining what is wrong with a jet and the T.O. is not helping except for the wiring schematic.

Well if the pilots owned the process they would be more concerned on how mx is done than the color of PPT slides. Plus they would feel the same pain if they are out there 0300 on Xmas day trying to fix a nagging NMC write up. I think it would make them have more of a clue when they hit the O-5,6,7 level since most MX officers don't make it that far.

I'm a contractor now but still work with my boys, a SSgt just lost a stripe because a Amn had a DSV and he happened to be on the other side of the acft when it happened at a deployed location. I like the USN/USMC idea where pilots take full ownership of the whole process and get rid of some of these AFMC shoes who's only purpose is to order up briefings on how to stop acft from breaking, easy don't fly them.

Yes lets be perfect, I want 100% compliance, who put garbage in the garbage can. I have actually been written up for having FOD in my FOD can right after a FOD walk. I have been written up during a document review (781 series) for a greasy thumbprint on the binder and had to answer a QA fail report for it. Why was that takeoff late, because QA wanted to do a eval on the crew chief right during the red ball, plus the pilot had to fill out a police report when the Pro Super, Crew Chief and Specialist launch truck gave the QA inspector a blanket party. Since a QA fails mean a loss of a stripe now. Preflights take 3 days now because everybody is scared QA will burn there house down. Maybe we should go back under OP's. I think I worked fro that Col once.

If you even suspect a prop strike it requires a tear down, you don't want to be airborne and find out your crankshaft is bad. Plus you would probably notice right at engine start.

Good job at saving it, that left mlg being the only damage, could have been alot worse.

Blaming a gun for this bastards actions (millions of US gun owners did not kill anybody yesterday) is like blaming forks for obese women.

He passed on 2 Jan and had a small funeral 8 Jan just for family and close friends. I think about the end of the episode when they link up with forces from Utah beach and more or less saying that he wants to know nothing but peace and quiet after the war. I guess if he did say that his wish has been granted. RIP

AWACS mx left Ops in the early 90's. We disbanded our FSMU's to try a brand new idea, it was called a Aircraft Generation Sqaudron with all airplanes taken from the flying squadrons and they flew what was available. This was the knee jerk response after the Black Hawk shoot down during Operation Provide Comfort to increase mission ready crews from 27 to 42 with only 15 available E-3's stateside for training plus another Flying squadron standing up. With all other requirments and taskings we were lucky to have 8 acft for training plus keep our associate reserve unit trained. It did not take long before the fleet was in terrible shape.

OK I did not work under Ops since 1995, and I was in ACC.

Amen!!

Being a prior E will give a leg up on knowing the EPR process and surely make you more enlightened of how the rest of the Wing gets the job done but as a E-6 you supervised maybe between 5 to 10 guys with a couple them E-5's but by the time you make O-4 that is so far away in your rear view mirror. Since that time you spent the last maybe 8 years just trying to be the best pilot possible with some other additional duties thrown in. Why would any rated O-5 want the added headache of a FSMU attached to him. You will probably be talking and spending more time with your 1st Sgt than your DO and explaining knucklehead stuff to the Wing CC why Amn Snuffy got drunk and smashed into the front gate. I believe the Army does it best when it comes to this, enlisted do mx, WO's fly, and Officers Command and if they behave maybe get some flight time. I believe on this forum there are alot of pilots who love to fly and wish they can just stay in the cockpit for 20 years and be left alone but Uncle Sam made them officers first before he made them pilots.Like me I loved Crewing a jet but like a dumb ass I studied and made MSgt and had to lead. I think it would help rated officers who by defualt will be tomorrows senior leaders giving them enlisted to be responsible for, like the Crew Chief and wipers of a jet when they get to their airframe after AETC, follow up on training, medical, finance, recognition, discipline, etc. Instead of waiting until they are O5 and get everything thrown in their lap and now just do it.