17D_guy

Working now with quite a few guard peeps and I've heard the "cover optional" thing more than once. It's one of those things that just.. doesn't seem hard to do and doesn't kill morale. You had to do it through initial training (Basic/OTS/etc). Perhaps that's part of their heritage?

I don't remember saying things supporting the crackdown where they grabbed books, family photos, whatever. I thought that was/is pretty stupid. I think the additional training is over blown, and the focus and leverage we're giving to the "victims of offensive material" is making us a weaker service overall. There are problems that need to be addressed, but rando swim suits isn't it. We had Maxim's confiscated here, but fitness mags were ok. Good job AF. I did side with Liquid on the sts, 69, etc stuff. I don't think those terms have a place in a professional environment. (I don't know how much you consider you Sq bar a professional environment.) I know many of you disagree and that's fine, you'll be leading the AF you can change it back later if you think it was a valuable part of your heritage. Perhaps it's just because I'm MSG that I don't get how "important" this is to everyone. Perhaps you need this stuff to kill people and break things, if so then I'm wrong. I do think it's sad the old songs, patches, and the like are being lumped in. That's true heritage of our former Airmen. Perhaps we don't use the same images/words anymore, but they shouldn't be buried, shunned and destroyed. That's a disgusting betrayal of what those men and women went through. My opinion on all of this has changed over the past 3 years as I've watched my wife struggle with the environment in her flying squadron and the blatant hostility that peers and leadership have directed towards her. I used to think the AF was fine with women and there were no problems. At least in her Sq I was wrong. Both words and actions have pushed half the females in her squadron to seek opportunities outside of the squadron and/or AF. This is in spite of the praise lauded on her by the people that have actually worked with her. It's doubly sad because she loves the flying job, but dreads the office. Like most of you all she wants to do is fly. The rumors are destructive, the targeting based solely upon the gender, the language coarse and sexualized for no reason. Should they speak up and complain? Sure they should.. but then they're ostracized more and become true outsiders in the office and on the jet. She just wants to be treated fairly and as everyone else. EDIT: Wanted to add that my grandfather retired from the AF and told both his daughter to not enlist in the AF due to how women were treated. That was back in the mid-70's. I'm not saying the service is the same as it is now, but I thought it was an interesting comment.

This...wait, commanders are really dedicating extra time to this? This was viewed as a positive experience with value added? Had to check what she Sq she "led", yep finance. Must have done it during one of their training windows, or querying the Service Center on why the paperwork the jacked wasn't getting paid. This made me puke - Trying has nothing to do with the percent of effort. Wonder if she'll get a Bronze Star for this.

This is due to the ACA, or some other change?.

How bad are the briefings/CBT's for off-base driving?

Nice article covering the overall failings of the Guard in AZ, from over a year ago. If it ain't broke, don't fix it I guess. https://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/20121013national-guard-republic-special-report.html?nclick_check=1 My personal fav

Knew someone in this exact situation. He let them repo it, still got a clearance. Handed them the keys when they showed up for the vehicle. You just don't want a bankruptcy and I have heard of that causing issues.

Doesn't highlight her "victim" status enough and the writing's not masculine enough. I'd like to meet the person that can complain about something like our promotion/PME system and know how to fix the whole thing. Or how about this, the AFI to wear "not loud" shoes at a PT test. What's the fix action for that. Allow all shoes, determine the brands/models we're allowed to wear, issue shoes. Or we could just do what we did before and not give a damn what shoe you're running in. Add sock color to that as well. Guess I'll stay in till 30 to fix that. /Done with troll On a side note talked with some squids about their rating/promotion system and didn't hate ours as much afterwards.

After the mother came forward, the AF didn't just go digging. See below - https://www.stripes.com/news/us/wilkerson-had-affair-that-produced-a-child-air-force-confirms-1.225660 https://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/04/25/help_wanted_at_the_pentagon_wilkerson_being_investigated_for_an_extramarital_aff Nobody knew about it until recently, so it wasn't exactly covered up. The woman was disgusted with how it all turned out, also probably with the fact that he was portrayed as some kind of integrity king. Dude should have just opted for retirement right after it was overturned, or did he just forget about this large, and growing skeleton in his closet? It smacks of arrogance, or naivety ,that this wouldn't come back with how public his whole thing is/was.

Vast Minority... genius.

There's provisions for an officer to be retired at the last rank he served honorably if there's been problems.

Well sweet, we've got those too. Has the vending machines, microwave, vision and mission statement and squadron picture from 4 commanders ago right?

Possible correction: I think the promotion was red-lined upon original conviction and/or legal proceedings. Because Gen Franklin in one of the articles was upset Wilkerson wasn't going to have the promotion re-instated. Possible other: Didn't the woman he had the affair with come forward and that initiated the second investigation? I don't feel like reading through all the pages again.

Yea, As I've said before my issue wasn't with the conviction being overturned, I think that was the right call. It was with Lt Col Maj Wilkerson leaving the Gen hanging with his omission of any other things that could get him "in trouble". He could have retired after the overturned conviction and this additional headache, and hit to the integrity of Gen Franklin been totally avoided. Rules pretty clear about last rank served honorably and he's certainly not the first I've seen get popped. I think he's somewhat lucky since he had the affair as a Maj, they could have conceivably dropped him to Capt. I hope this issue is done with, and the damage it caused can start to be repaired. I don't know how it is in your communities, but with my peers/year-group this caused a lot of negativity. BTW - how much would the flight pay have been?

Thank you, and I knew this was somewhat the answer. But I thought, apparently incorrectly, that there would be more feedback among the pilot types to your bosses about who is/is not a leader. I figured around the bar, or debriefs, or whatever that a Sq CC would get the straight info. I've done this in my MSG Sq's and among peers, but I've also been counseled numerous times on a lack of tact. I figured you guys wouldn't have that limitation/concern.

So, as a non-pilot... how is this guy still getting promoted? If he's such a joke/ass to you guys, and you're bros.. why is he where he is? You guys are a small community, you know each other. I'm not trying to ask in an asinine/shoe/douche way. I just have a hard time understanding how a tight knit community has these issues. Isn't there some other O6 who just throws this bastard into the fire? How have his failings in the aircraft not been reflected in some career impacting way? Please note - small community isn't meant in a derogatory manner. I'm also on some good meds currently, so sorry if it don't make no sense. EDIT - Saw the bronze star in medals. Is that.. legit? No "V". Heard other stories on here about terrible circumstances with senior officers trying to get shiny chests.

Wait.. he's part of the problem for pointing out that "fair" is a matter of perspective? Not the people "making it fairer" for themselves (R or D)? Or you just mean all liberal thoughts, and/or thoughts you don't agree with, are the problem? Of course this happened - The GOP changed House rules so only the Majority Leader can bring up bills that would end the shutdown. They removed that privilege from the rest of the Reps. Guess it's a good thing the Senate will get some work done.

Liberals?

FTFY

Part of that Strategery!

Funny, we can't be distinctive in taking care of each other, or the mission, or not being as stupid/ate-up as the other services. Nope. We're distinctive because of the uniform. Seems to me once we switched to the POS ABU things started going down hill fast, and the AF tried to play the catch-up game with the other services over "we contribute/HUA/HOO-RAH". Perhaps if we pull our heads out of our camo asses we can figure out why we're better again. God I hate the ABU. Only good thing is the boots and those still fail at everything but being no shine.

Then please promote it.

Read the article. Rank last served honorably. Same thing happened to Fiscus. He had the affair with proof as a Maj and it's been refereed to some committee. As well all know.. good things come out of committees.

What's the over/under on him getting dropped at least one rank? Just think.. this guy was ID'd as a superstar by his leadership.

A simple survey would take care of all these questions. Do they do one after the ACP closes out for they year to figure out pros/cons of their program? Or am I foolishly hoping someone's using that online Masters?