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And they've started issuing cards for flops, maybe this sport might finally take off in America.

I am cautiously optimistic like you, but not jumping up and down yet. Have you seen the outline of the deal? From what I read it differs from JCPOA in that it is performance based. The sanctions come off and the blockade ends when the straight opens. Eventually free up $25B of Iran's money as they meet other milestones. I much prefer a deal like this versus flying an airplane with pallets of cash just because they said they agree. As for the enriched materiel, they have "supposedly" agreed to no nukes and a plan dismantle their nuclear program, details to be negotiated... Indeed. They have far less traction these days and with the mid-terms approaching it is obvious Trump wants a deal in place, and oil back to $60 a barrel. Even with the back and forth oil is down 26% in the last 30 days and 4% just today at $74.50. I want you to be wrong, not to spike the ball but because I don't think any of us wants another forever war our kids have to fight. I will disagree for now, the jury is still out because a few things have happened. Iran's Air Force and Navy are completely toast. Yes they can still project power through TBMs and Drones but they are strategically in a much different place. Not saying it was worth it, just providing my BDA. Also, this fight reignited the discussion about building a bypass canal. A huge effort that likely won't happen but as an alternative plan the Gulf nations are investing heavily in extensive, multi-billion-dollar overland pipeline networks to secure their energy exports. The UAE operates the Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline, which pumps oil from the Habshan fields to the deep-water port of Fujairah on the Gulf of Oman, bypassing Hormuz completely. The UAE is aggressively accelerating a second parallel pipeline to double this export capacity. Saudi operates and is expanding the East-West Petroline, which transports millions of barrels of oil per day from the Eastern Province directly to the Red Sea port of Yanbu. And efforts have resumed to build the multi-billion-dollar proposals for a Gulf Strategic Energy Corridor, a network of pipelines linking Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and Oman to the Arabian Sea. Amen

This problem is an easy fix but there is a lack of political appetite to actually solve this - same could be said in this country until recently.

I appreciate that you lap up IRGC bullshit and continue to run your mouth about things you have no knowledge of. Seriously, is your side hustle as a contractor for IRGC PA? Take a break bud, you need it.

Don't think so, that is the bird that has been testing the new AESA.

I wish we'd be alive 150+ years from now to (hopefully) get a look at this period with (again, hopefully) clearer eyes on the totality of the last decade in relief. I think the Biden pardons now make sense given the multi-failed indictments from the DoJ. I thought it was shitty at the time, and while I still don't agree (bad policy, worse precedent) I understand. I'm expecting tons of pardons and an attempt at a self pardon out of the current admin. Always appreciate your comments even if we disagree.

So setting aside the service members who died, aircraft we lost, facilities damaged, and stockpiles depleted let's see where we are at. Allies lost faith in our ability to defend them and pissed off our European allies for blind siding them. Chucked by Israel continously. Destroyed Iran's airforce and navy (as if they were ever a threat). Disrupted the global economy and validated Iran's ability to exert control over the strait and region using mines, drones, and ballistic missiles. Traded a deal that unfroze $1.7B of their cash for a deal that's going to unfreeze $25B of their casb and give them another $300B of our cash allegedly. Replaced extremist leadership with even more hardline military extremist leadership. Traded an inspected and managed uranium stockpile for unknown results but certainly not what's claimed. If the B-2s did the work they claimed last year, why are we here again? Any limitations not included in this deal. Explicitly excludes any missile program related concessions despite those on here saying that was a key flaw of Obama's deal. OH and killed a bunch of school kids making another generation or three of anti-american extremists in the region. Did we win daddy?

I have a thesis on why Trump is fucked up. He doesn't drink beer. If he sipped IPA, chugged Modelo, had a Presidential Beer Fridge with everything from Treehouse to Pliney, and partook daily, who knows.

I've only seen what has been released so a very screened optic but the U.S. did not blindly launch TBMs into cities. I would assume the leadership strike early on had some CDE, but that was Rampage missiles from Israel. And again, I was approaching form a tactical observation that I have discussed with other friends after seeing a lot of BDA. Even some of the strikes against airplanes and ships seemed lower yield. I've since learned on 30S% of the strikes have included JDAM or LJDAM. A much higher percentage has been SDB and APKWS which seem,s to fit my observation. Of course you should...I am not like you guys, I don't have TDS and can call BS out on both sides. I think Congress is investigating and they are free to do so because has yet to hand out Pardon's to his family I believe Jared's father got a pardon for pre-election crimes that he served time for. And to be fair and open, while Trump has not pardoned his family I believe there is a binding exoneration agreement for his sons. Still not the pardon fest handed out by the "Big Guy" James B. Biden (brother), Sara Jones Biden (sister-in-law), Valerie Biden Owens (sister), John T. Owens (brother-in-law), Francis W. Biden (brother). Again, c'est la vie, nothing to see here.

Eight confirmed dead. Him Him 🥃

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