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Should have just said the last part "our society is unwell" Looks like the assassin had a male-to-female trans partner...you know, like all Christian dudes. https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/ Sent from my SM-S918U using Baseops Network mobile app

So you can't be a progressive if you have conservative parents? The bullets didn't have MAGA forever written on them. Your forecasting history hasn't been great.

Sure thing tough guy. Probably because we have not had as many political assassinations in recent years. Also, Vance and Kirk were good friends. Finally, for close to half the nation, this was a significant emotional event. They tried to kill Trump twice, why should we be surprised. And when they did try to kill Trump, the left questioned if he was even shot instead of trying to calm things down. It is not just the media

I’ve never heard of the same type of scenario playing out, not to say it has never happened. That said, I’m not going to be upset about this or take it as a slight against military members, their sacrifice, etc. This tragedy is an extraordinary moment in our history, so it’s not a crazy notion to do things that treat/emphasize it as such.

turns out I'm a Joneser

The left has been pushing hate and rage for years, inciting violence constantly. This has culminated in a leftist (or at least someone who bought the left’s rhetoric to an extent) assassinating someone. Conservatives aren’t starting a war, the left started this war many decades ago, and they have really crossed the line now. We may be at a significant FAFO moment in our history - remains to be seen what that means in the coming weeks/months/years. Necessary disclaimer: the term “left” used above does not describe those that simply have liberal views on economics, healthcare, social services (e.g. welfare), etc. It describes those who hold views diametrically opposed to American/Christian values and seek to destroy those ideas and institutions. Examples are movements like Antifa and BLM, people who openly cheer, or at least tacitly support, murder of those they disagree with, etc.

If Vance was on AF-2 the C-17 usually transports his limo’s and Secret Service Detail. Normal ops.

You are entirely missing the point. yes, both sides have fruitcakes but the Dem fruitcakes are YOUR leaders. The videos I attached have one loon (Maxine Water that I would equate to Meregie Taylor Green, but the others are the leaders of the Democratic Party....the Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader! Break Break There has a been a wave of backlash and firings, some posted here. A friend knows they guy compiling the big database that is tracking 20,000 people who made comments and are being targeted to lose their job. He said nearly half are teachers...the right has been saying for years, the fight has been in the schools and universities. They fired the EA to the Vice Chancellor at my son's college after some incredibly hateful words pots. Something to think about.

I don't care if the guy was trans, straight or gay. He fucked up bad and people celebrated it. Those people are the ones I'm concerned about.

Your link on Mormonism is irrelevant to knowledge of the shooters personal religious beliefs. You’re hardening a narrative around assumptions. This is not a convincing argument and you have zero evidence for your assertion.

He was raised Mormon and assumedly in a conservative household (assumption based on religion + father’s LEO career). Regardless it’s irrelevant, because he was radicalized at some point - none of the 18 years in his parents household mattered the second he was on his own and consumed radical information that drastically altered his perceptions and understanding of societal norms. This is a good lesson in how important it is to teach kids at home to be rigorous in critical thought, seek verifiable evidence from multiple sources before deciding something is accurate/true, and sow strong moral fibers in them so that they cannot be easily led astray once outside the parents’ purview/guidance. To that extent, I think you can trace a lot of problems in our society today to failed parenting, completely independent of the household’s political affiliation. Lacking parenting is across the entire political spectrum. I feel horrible for this POS’s parents. I’m sure they are tormented by thoughts of where they went wrong or what they should have done/emphasized that they didn’t.

Check yourself bud. I just asking a simple question, don’t make into something it isn’t. Plus your counters are not the same situation. We all know every president, from both parties, has transported their supporters, friends, ect. Thanks for stating the obvious but with through a singular lens. For the sake of non political bullshit, the correct rephrasing could be this: How many times has a civilian’s remains, a.k.a. someone with no official government position or former military service, been transported on military or state aircraft inside CONUS. I get that we’ve recovered people from overseas, it just seems very extraordinary for it to happen here at home. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Those aren't the same. From now on, I expect Vance to transport the remains of the next military member that is killed in action.

GMAFB? Funny you never asked the question the other way... George Clooney: The actor accompanied Biden on Air Force One in June 2024 for a major campaign fundraiser in Los Angeles. Julia Roberts: Roberts also flew with Biden for the star-studded Los Angeles fundraiser in June 2024. Jimmy Kimmel: The late-night host was a guest on Air Force One with Biden and other celebrities for the fundraiser event in Los Angeles. Sean McGarvey: A top union official, McGarvey was one of a group of union workers invited by Biden to tour the aircraft in September 2024

From a Delta bro… It’s possible that there might actually be appropriate actions for one’s consequences. What a novel concept.

So how many retired guys here have their 'Rank' (Ret.) as their titles at their new job? Absolutely zero chance you would ever catch me referring to my retired military rank. He's the president of a huge university, isn't that enough? I had to go to his speech one time on active duty and walked away thinking "How does everyone not see right through this guy? That was nothing but dumb pandering and anyone that was motivated by that is probably dumb enough that we don't need him."

They vary quite a bit, life happens and people migrate between classes. All said and done they’re typically 10-20 people. Cant speak for UPT, not a pilot.

This forum needs a TDS button.

The US manufacturer will immediately sue them and say they need to develop something in house that works half as well and costs 3 times as much. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk