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We don't know what we don't know, they may have screwed up, they may have had something going on we don't know about. I originally wanted to fry them with a post, but I'm getting old or something. Thankfully they are alive, that hasn't been the trend lately.

A thousands times this. Arrogance and hubris have been the cause of MANY mishaps. Show my a guy who has never screwed up in an airplane and I will show you someone who has never flown one. Part of being a good pilot is recognizing your own vulnerability to making mistakes and be vigilant to identify them before mistakes grow into mishaps. QC your own work just like you would with a student pilot, ESPECIALLY if you are an AC, and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY if you are an IP. The higher your position, the more likely the rest of your crew will be to accept what you have done as the "correct" way to do things, and not speak up due to your experience and seniority. If you think you can/will never make a mistake in an airplane, you need to find a new line of work, because you are destined to kill yourself and others with your arrogance.

True in any airframe. And here on the interwebs too! Famous last words. If you look at the vast majority of aircrew involved in incidents you will find very serious people who expect excellence from themselves and others. Nothing scares me more than someone who doesn't think that they could be next.

Welcome home. Talk to somebody about it. Seriously.

What does this have to do with anything? Something wrong with being proud of what you do? Something else wrong with a pilot wearing a breitling? Stop trolling.

So let me get this straight...women aren't always telling the truth when they claim they were sexually assaulted? Bitches be crazy!

Thanks, no. Compartmentalized and moved on. The MC-12W crash 2 days prior only made it worse though. I knew the 747 was going to crash well before it did. The first thing i saw was the plane climbing at a 45 degree angle. Even empty, they don't do that. The AOA kept increasing though...even at 80 degrees nose-high, it continued to climb albeit briefly. I can recount every detail precisely, but instead I'm going to go grab a coffee, go out to my backyard (rural Iowa acreage), and enjoy the day.

are we just making up acronyms now?

That's a pretty shocking magazine cover.

But...but...but...I thought only the best pilots got C-17s on assignment night? How could this happen? Again. IMHO if it's not already happening (foul if it's not) the C-17 community should probably drop the "we're better than everyone else" cavalier attitude and get back to the basics. You know, land at the correct airport, on the correct runway, with the gear down. Glad no one was hurt. Hope someone can use the jet again.

https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-15320.aspx The Green Spot. This one blew my hair back. Unfortunately, it's not available in the States yet and apparently is only Iimited to 500 cases/yr. At $44/bottle, this Irish has the most bang I've tasted so far. Glad I got 2 bottles!

I know of at least one former missileer flying C-17s at Dover. Wouldn't that be ironic?

And dragging the gear two miles short on approach at bastion....nvgs are hard!

This mantra gets rolled out every incident, maybe our crews are actually ######ing up? I'm tired of this attitude. We are professional aviators, when did we lose the ability to call people out? Every incident I hear the "it could happen to anyone crowd" fire up the propaganda machine. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it won't happen to me because I take my job seriously and still expect excellence out of my crew. These aren't act of god incidents, landing short, wrong airport, no gear are all pilot error. And before you say microburst, reference ground speed check, do we not look at this stuff anymore? *Waiting with my popcorn to find out how I'm going to eat crow on this one*

Maybe we should use stricter criteria than year group and hours to determine upgrades? IMO the C-17 has a growing number of CPs flying around coded as ACs and IPs. Get enough of these on one crew and you get buffoonery like we've been seeing.

I think not, this had to be a mechanical problem of some kind. AMC has stabilized approach criteria we must meet... Therefore, short/long landings are not possible. It's science.

I don't always land at the right airport with the gear down, but when I do, I land short...

I laughed.

I say we start with AETC...

Guess the Navy should hide all of these?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/08/navy-hazing-at-rock-island-ill-facility-involved-demeaning-sailors-with/ Navy Hazing gets out of control!

We could probably use a FCIF to make sure this doesn't happen again...

Or the Air & Space Sexual Harassment Obliteration Liaison Executive?

Tell me about it... my boss just made me remove all of the pictures of the wives of the other guys in my office wearing bikinis that I had on my desk! Some people are so sensitive!!! I mean seriously, it’s not like it was the naked pictures I had of them up!!!

Here here! Ain't nobody got time for scrumpets!

I arrived Bagram ~20 June 2011 to fly the MC-12. Was there about 7 months, including during the time of said incident. You mention you knew both of the pilots involved. Unless you are talking about additional instances, one of the pilots of the incident being referred to arrived well after you (approx Sept or Oct). As for the issue of flashcards and such, I'm not sure what specifically you are referring to that was on those cards that was prohibited,... not that I remember them much anymore. I simply do not recall anything related to this incident. I was an ADO in the squadron and was questioned in great detail and have some solid first hand information. I do not wish to discuss details on this or any forum. The aircraft commander in question was in my opinion was the most knowledgeable and highly regarded pilot in the squadron. I strongly believe he is being made a scapegoat. I'm not willing to explain why. Irrespective of what my or your opinion of that crew is, let me just say there is "more to the story". In a few months after I retire, maybe I'll discuss it over a beer. The "court of public opinion" is flawed.

A big crackdown on sexuality in our military culture...Next will be head coverings for all women since we men obviously can't control ourselves. Hmm this is sounding familiar...

I would not want stock (or options) in this company.

That's all I'd do is fly. "Call me 2 hours before the jet takes off. I may come in, but I'm not shaving."

Don't worry...Obamacare fixes all. I know this because he told me.

Bravo Two Zero. Andy McNab (sp?). One of the best books I have ever read. British SAS in GW1 get spotted then run several hundred miles to Syria. Just before crossing all but one gets caught. Then they are POWs and it goes through what they had to deal with. Crazy book.