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Welp. I guess it's started.

Iran's CJCS reportedly taken out.

What's your plan if you DOR and separate? Think long and hard about that. The airline hiring pendulum has swung back the other way from 1,500 hour wonders getting hired at the legacies. Once you get through pilot training, it is a different AF, and flying is (usually) awesome. You're in an exceptionally competitive program...study hard, let it ride. My gut says stick with it. My $0.02 is you'll regret it if you hang up the flightsuit.

I won't dox myself either but I'm very familiar with the happenings at CBM. Do not DOR because you have to wait longer than anticipated to start training. I think that would be a monumental mistake. Yes the IPT situation sucks for the non-IPT folks but at the end of the day it's just time. I went through the pipeline before the IPT stuff started and it was still a 6-12 month wait between arrival at CBM and starting T-6 academics. Outside of IPT I don't think this is remotely true. UPT is not like civilian training at all - that's the problem with IPT.

First, I wouldn't DOR, because I know I'd regret it. Second, welcome to the Air Force. I've had very similar management to what you're describing in multiple commands, so don't expect the skies to clear once you're done with UPT, YMMV. Get through UPT, get your 10 years done and decide if you're going to go airlines, guard, or a combination of the two. Obviously, you can math out both paths to determine what sets up you and your family in the best financial spot. However, if you decide to take your ball and go home, make sure the bobs know why. Do it professionally, but make it known. It probably won't matter, but if you're doing well and quit, it will raise some eyebrows. If it becomes a trend, there's an RCH of a possibility something positive will come from it for those that follow.

Looking like very targeted strikes on IRGC homes and apartments. This is one of the many pictured. Lots of top floor strikes where building wasn't leveled.

Very interesting to see no evidence of air defense activity.

100's of civilian flights over Iran right now. Wouldn't want to be on board

All the OSINT pages are showing multiple explosions in Tehran. Israel in declared state of emergency. All air traffic into Israel turned around.

Been following this forum for a while now as it directly has impacted me the past year. Current student at Columbus who was caught in the serious thrash of the IPT SGTO implementation in the fall of '24. I completed T-6 academics, was screwed out of the flightline by the IPT group, waited around doing nothing for 7+ months, and then finally moved forward. It was a front row seat to watching this all unfold and I have quite a few friends in the first IPT group. I have a genuine question for the group. This past year has been nothing short of a disaster, with a lot of the frustrations of what happened to my original UPT class spilling over into my personal life. To make matters worse, I made a big decision regarding my UPT path that was based on what I feel was a boldface lie from leadership. I'm purposefully being vague so as not to dox myself on here. It was a somewhat big move, but I found out after that decision was made that perhaps one problem was just traded for another and leadership withheld information from us. I am not new to the Air Force (not a brand new Lt fresh out of college), so I've seen a bit of how this all goes. After all the experiences the past year, I am really not sure if I want to continue when I have next to zero faith in Air Force leadership. The certain mystique that Air Force pilots held to me for my whole life has been destroyed since now we are all getting the exact same training I was getting at a civilian flight school before getting picked up for UPT, and those that are not in IPT are getting shafted and short changed in every way, and at the risk of sounding dramatic, that has been a heartbreaking discovery. I have been seriously considering DOR'ing and just separating from the Air Force and using my GI bill to pursue the aviation dream on my own. Money aside, the thing keeping me is that I've been in other MAJCOMs and am well aware of AETC leadership's reputation. But man after working so hard for years to get here, the experience has been a disaster and the second and third order effects of getting caught in this thrash has caused serious doubts about the Air Force as a whole and that looming 10 year ADSC. I would love to hear thoughts on this. Appreciate you all!

I wish I was that rich 😂😅

Pot stirring What if we ended ENJPT? Shepherd would be a regular UPT base and the AF and USN more evenly split our training of allied student pilots? Would that help appreciably the USAF in providing quality training (ie close or the same as UPT classic to the 1500 goal?

You sure you aren't a Boeing executive? Perhaps with a previous portfolio, say... 737 MAX?

My cynical opinion: The Air Force has a finite amount of procurement dollars, and trainers are their last priority. I think the only thing that got the T-7 over the finish line was that it provided a lifeline to Boeing's St Louis operation.

Any reason why the Air Force wouldn't buy the PC-21 since they keep blaming T-6 issues on maintenance and it being "old"? We also should have bought the already produced Italian trainer or Korean trainer as a T-38 replacement instead of the disaster that is the T-7.

On another site I frequent, they did the flap vs gear retraction in the 787-9 sim at max weight and the jet flew fine IF you followed the HUD flight path cues.

Expected you to say “dibs”

The odds of both engines failing within a couple seconds of each other is astronomically small, especially with fuel contamination. I suspect either Software caused the loss of thrust, or the crew did. And as much as I hate saying it, outside of the West, crew failure is the most likely culprit.

If the Bobs are hell bent on divesting the T-6 with no military primary trainer (bad idea) and having only 141 school time prior to T-7 I think most of us here see disaster written all over it. When it becomes apparent that an intermediate program is needed (if they won’t go and procure a mil intermediate trainer), is it financially possible to contract out an intermediate trainer without the problems of the non-standardized / directly supervised 141 schools? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Could be flaps instead of the gear. India to London with a full pax load is going to be at or close to max weight, so the engines might not be able to overcome an early flap retraction, especially if the flying pilot didn't immediately go max thrust. That or fuel contamination are probably the two most logical possibilities I've heard so far.

RAT extends on the fuselage bottom right side just about even to slightly aft of the right wing trailing edge. I don't see it but it ain't that big. Flight aware data's shows they got to 400-ish feet AGL. Normal flap for takeoff is 5 degrees so leading edge slats and a little trailing edge flaps, 15 flaps on shorter runways. Flap retraction instead of gear?

Just a thought from left field but a manned AWACS and unmanned might work just as the fighter + CCA concept being developed Russian concept AWACS UAS Could you modify a biz jet for ejection seats and ACE to austere fields without spending 6.9 billion?

that's the fix. wish a general would have had the balls to do that during the 20 year GWOT disaster and wish a general had the balls integrity to say so now with the UPT disaster playing out in slow motion. if you can't do it and the plan being shoved down the throats of line IPs is bull shit, then you should resign in protest. don't be a yes man simply to push a square peg in a round hole sts