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Okay, so young guy question (check user name).  What' the likely course of action for this?  Like FEB, slap on the wrist, Q3, nothing?  Just curious

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2 hours ago, YoungnDumb said:

Okay, so young guy question (check user name).  What' the likely course of action for this?  Like FEB, slap on the wrist, Q3, nothing?  Just curious

Depends: is he a HPO?

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4 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

Depends: is he a HPO?

So true

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Low transition = suck the gear up as early as possible, stay as low as possible on the deck while gaining all the knots you can, pull up at end of runway, look cool.

 

Doesnt work if you yank the gear with minimal flying speed and settle back down onto the runway.  

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Does gear go up with weight on wheels? Also, is ground effect much of a thing on fighters?

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3 hours ago, ayz33 said:

Does gear go up with weight on wheels? Also, is ground effect much of a thing on fighters?

Wingspan is smaller on fighters, thus ground effect is not as yuge as larger aircraft.

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Low transition = suck the gear up as early as possible, stay as low as possible on the deck while gaining all the knots you can, pull up at end of runway, look cool.
 
Doesnt work if you yank the gear with minimal flying speed and settle back down onto the runway.  

C’mon, this is a f-22 with some serious thrusties. Either a monumental rotation f-up or engine issue is all I can figure. Ground effect, gear door drag n/a

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10 hours ago, BolterKing said:

Low transition = suck the gear up as early as possible, stay as low as possible on the deck while gaining all the knots you can, pull up at end of runway, look cool.

 

 

AKA standard takeoff.  Unless you're in the Navy where they lose their shit over fighter pilots being fighter pilots.

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5 hours ago, Buddy Spike said:

 

AKA standard takeoff.  Unless you're in the Navy where they lose their shit over fighter pilots being fighter pilots.

Repeatable offense:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cunaek9W24

 

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18 hours ago, Buddy Spike said:

 

AKA standard takeoff.  Unless you're in the Navy where they lose their shit over fighter pilots being fighter pilots.

Says the USAF guy?!?

 

 

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4 hours ago, BolterKing said:

Says the USAF guy?!?

 

 

 

Says the guy who spent 6 years in a Navy Hornet squadron and had a very good friend get FNAEB'd for it.  

 

 

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On 5/25/2018 at 4:49 AM, Buddy Spike said:

 

Says the guy who spent 6 years in a Navy Hornet squadron and had a very good friend get FNAEB'd for it.  

 

 

As a Hornet guy in the guard now, the USAF aus way more F’d up.  The FNAEB process isn’t perfect, but it’s way more democratic/pragmatic.  Just look at the outcome of the sky writers.  You telling me the USAF would’ve ever let them keep their wings, let alone keep flying?

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54 minutes ago, BolterKing said:

As a Hornet guy in the guard now, the USAF aus way more F’d up.  

The irony. 

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8 hours ago, BolterKing said:

As a Hornet guy in the guard now, the USAF aus way more F’d up.  The FNAEB process isn’t perfect, but it’s way more democratic/pragmatic.  Just look at the outcome of the sky writers.  You telling me the USAF would’ve ever let them keep their wings, let alone keep flying?

You've obviously spent zero time in the Navy Reserve.  Comparing the two reserve forces (which is valid, not comparing AD to AD), the Navy Reserve is about as fucked up as it gets. I can't tell you how many months in 6 years we had one - YES - ONE jet available to fly.  I didn't even know what a hot pit/hot seat was until it became a necessity just to maintain currency.

I doubt the sky writer thing would've ever happened because, well, the ARC has better things to do than dick around on a 1 v 0.  But as for risk aversion, well, every day I'd listen to dudes (and leadership) in the ready room marvel at the eagles doing closed patterns or unrestricted climbs and marvel at how they still had their wings. The biggest myth in aviation is that the Navy treats its pilots like adults.  No, they don't, they just give you more rope to hang yourself with nebulous rules that can be used against you at their leisure.

And I'll bet you went through an actual TX and MQT when you transitioned to the Guard, right?  Not a "CAT Other" 8 hr checkout and a "go watch the DVD to learn BFM" directive?

Meanwhile the flying schedule would get delayed twice a week so we could all gather round in the base gym and do group PT/jazzercise at 0730.  Yeah, the Navy is definitely less fucked up.  

 

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1 hour ago, Buddy Spike said:

You've obviously spent zero time in the Navy Reserve.

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Surely I am not the only one who thought instantly of this?

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I actually did do two years USNR.  All valid points and hence why I’m now ANG.  

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