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So enroute to the AOR on the rotator, we had a layover in an undisclosed country in order for them to crew change and fuel the bird. Thinking nothing of it, I left my PSP and peripherals in the seat. Come back out to the plane, GONE. The "airline" in question's response: tough shit, we don't reimburse for our shady characters taking your things.

So take from my $700+ lesson and secure your stuff on your person, even when you are on the rotator and think that maybe, for some reason, your stuff might be safe. :bash:

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Reason number one I'm climbing into the gear well of an RJ or Lincoln tanker for my escape from hell. FZ is the way to be.

The rotator coming over reminded me of the last time I rode Greyhound.

Definitely a good idea to take your expensive stuff with you, regardless of what the 70-year old flight attendants tell you on the way out the door.

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I've had mostly good experiences on airlines, (haven't flown Ryan air yet) but sometimes the true douchebaggery seems to come out in droves....

On southwest one I had an incident where I boarded, got a window seat in the back of the plane, put my magazine and MP3 player in the seatback, then got up to hit the head real quick. When I came back to my seat some guy was sitting in my seat, my backpack was under his feet and my stuff was still in the seat back. After pointing out the obvious that it was my stuff and my seat, he said oh well and just sat there. Asked again...nothing. There were still seats open, so I just figured I'd go somewhere else...since this guy wasn't going to move. I then asked for him to give me my stuff, and he said it was his!!!! WTF?? Luckily the 50+ year old flight attendant (the type you don't fck with) saw the whole thing and kick the dude out and up to some middle seat.

Douche!

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We had an unwritten rule in the Corps :

If an item is valuable enough to you that you wouldn't shitcan it or throw it overboard... lock it up, don't let it out of your sight, or leave it at home.

I personally don't leave anything I own on the airplane when we stop someplace - the only thing I'll leave is my pro gear. Some folks leave their laptops, cameras, iPods, etc. on the plane if we're min-ground-time... to me, that's leaving a sign on your shit that says "STEAL ME!"

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We had an unwritten rule in the Corps :

If an item is valuable enough to you that you wouldn't shitcan it or throw it overboard... lock it up, don't let it out of your sight, or leave it at home.

Gear adrift...gear a gift

I had taken off my flight suit to do some work while I was in the sandbox a while back...said flight suit had my wallet and digital camera in it. I had set it in a corner in one of the buildings we were working in and set off to work...came back and wallet and camera were gone. Got the wallet back the next day, but the camera was gone for good...stupid TCNs...lesson learned!

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I've had mostly good experiences on airlines, (haven't flown Ryan air yet) but sometimes the true douchebaggery seems to come out in droves....

On southwest one I had an incident where I boarded, got a window seat in the back of the plane, put my magazine and MP3 player in the seatback, then got up to hit the head real quick. When I came back to my seat some guy was sitting in my seat, my backpack was under his feet and my stuff was still in the seat back. After pointing out the obvious that it was my stuff and my seat, he said oh well and just sat there. Asked again...nothing. There were still seats open, so I just figured I'd go somewhere else...since this guy wasn't going to move. I then asked for him to give me my stuff, and he said it was his!!!! WTF?? Luckily the 50+ year old flight attendant (the type you don't fck with) saw the whole thing and kick the dude out and up to some middle seat.

Douche!

edit for "douchebaggery"

Wow, that's a special kind of asshole.

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Someone stole my heart once.

On an airplane.

Muthafu*kin' airplanes. You know?

Yeah, I hear ya'. Someone stole my motherfvcking snake from a motherfvcking plane once.

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In '04, we were ERO'ing some fresh Army dudes in Baghdad. The load was just about to close the ramp and door and some giagantic (6' 5" 275 lbs) army guy comes running back onto the plane. He had lost his MP3 player. We tore the back of the plane up looking for it, no luck. We had to press to stay on frag, and as he was leaving, with a tear streaming down is face, he said, "My Mamma gave me that." And he slowly walked into the darkness. I still feel bad for that guy, what a crappy way to start your year in the suck.

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In '04, we were ERO'ing some fresh Army dudes in Baghdad. The load was just about to close the ramp and door and some giagantic (6' 5" 275 lbs) army guy comes running back onto the plane. He had lost his MP3 player. We tore the back of the plane up looking for it, no luck. We had to press to stay on frag, and as he was leaving, with a tear streaming down is face, he said, "My Mamma gave me that." And he slowly walked into the darkness. I still feel bad for that guy, what a crappy way to start your year in the suck.

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Good on you for at least helping the guy look. It's a bummer to lose something like that anytime but especially starting the rotation, and if nothing else at least he remembered you guys cared enough to help. I was at the end of a long day a few years back carrying pax into Balad. Last offload of the night and we were exhausted. After shutdown while I was cleaning up the forms my load found a very expensive digital camera in the back. We decided to check the pax terminal just in case someone from our last offload forgot it. Well, after some looking and asking it turns out that we did find the chick who lost it; she was actually getting onto a C-17 for Germany going home on emergency leave for a child who had just been killed, and the camera had her most recent photos of her late son. I was very proud that my load had the integrity and the energy to do the right thing with no reward and its one of many experiences I've had that makes me proud to be around the guys I work with. I put him in for ML of the quater or something of that nature but unfortunatly he didn't get it.

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Good on you for at least helping the guy look. It's a bummer to lose something like that anytime but especially starting the rotation, and if nothing else at least he remembered you guys cared enough to help. I was at the end of a long day a few years back carrying pax into Balad. Last offload of the night and we were exhausted. After shutdown while I was cleaning up the forms my load found a very expensive digital camera in the back. We decided to check the pax terminal just in case someone from our last offload forgot it. Well, after some looking and asking it turns out that we did find the chick who lost it; she was actually getting onto a C-17 for Germany going home on emergency leave for a child who had just been killed, and the camera had her most recent photos of her late son. I was very proud that my load had the integrity and the energy to do the right thing with no reward and its one of many experiences I've had that makes me proud to be around the guys I work with. I put him in for ML of the quater or something of that nature but unfortunatly he didn't get it.

Haven't you heard? Integrity and mission execution take second seat to picking up trash on your days off. Doing the mission well is NOT how you get recognized in todays Air Force.

At least there's one more person who can look himself in the mirror at the end of the day...

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In '04, we were ERO'ing some fresh Army dudes in Baghdad. The load was just about to close the ramp and door and some giagantic (6' 5" 275 lbs) army guy comes running back onto the plane. He had lost his MP3 player. We tore the back of the plane up looking for it, no luck. We had to press to stay on frag, and as he was leaving, with a tear streaming down is face, he said, "My Mamma gave me that." And he slowly walked into the darkness. I still feel bad for that guy, what a crappy way to start your year in the suck.

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At least thats better than an Army dude that left his iPod full of home made amateur porn on one of our birds. Next thing you know one of our loadmasters in the Sand box has a treasure trove of free movies of a 250 lb woman with her ankles behind her head :vomit:

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"Gear adrift" is a copout for all but that last step.

2. I'm sure the phrase started out to serve as a warning, but turned into an excuse. "Oh cool, someone left their iPod sitting here...Gear adrift! It's mine now!".

If you steal someone else's $hit, even if they were dumb and left it sitting out, you're still a major douche.

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Having spent some time with the Marines, I think that phrase needs to be sh*t canned. It becomes the justification for stealing sh*t. Multiple times I saw guys get caught walking off with other people's property. Their response? "Gear adrift..." Maybe its meant as a warning, but its become an excuse.

Rather than aim to create a culture where everyone is paranoid, there should be a reasonable expectation that you can leave your stuff lying around and it should be there (or someplace safer) when you get back. Violators should get their asses beat. Then, if people apply some common sense to protect themselves, you have a system that works.

"Gear adrift" is a copout for all but that last step.

BSF.

By the way, i'm not a proponent for that saying whatsoever, but it seemed to be a recurring theme in my corner of the world when I was in the Marines. Totally agree with you and Hueypilot on people being a douche if you take someone's stuff...no matter what the occasion.

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Having spent some time with the Marines, I think that phrase needs to be sh*t canned. It becomes the justification for stealing sh*t. Multiple times I saw guys get caught walking off with other people's property. Their response? "Gear adrift..." Maybe its meant as a warning, but its become an excuse.

2. I'm sure the phrase started out to serve as a warning, but turned into an excuse.

By the way, i'm not a proponent for that saying whatsoever, but it seemed to be a recurring theme in my corner of the world when I was in the Marines. Totally agree with you and Hueypilot on people being a douche if you take someone's stuff...no matter what the occasion.

3. Or 4... whichever it is.

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