Skitzo Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 So, results in December?That’s usually the timeframe. But given we are hemorrhaging FGOs faster than we can make them maybe mid September isn’t a pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 So I was briefed on an interesting tidbit regarding the 09 Majors board today. Apparently there is a new (~5 Jul 18) congressional report that is required to be run by the services IG concerning officer eligibility for promotion. This system was already in place for O-6+, however not for the lower ranks. Anybody that is up for promotion that has had a "public" negative indicator will be reviewed at a later time as was mentioned earlier. The main driver for this may have been some Missileers that were involved in the Malmstrom cheating scandal in 2014. Although their LORs were removed from their UIF in the intervening years, their records are being further scrutinized since they were involved in a very public scandal. Hopefully the process will be further vetted for the later year groups (10-11) that were also heavily involved. This new scrutiny caught many O-6 off guard as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Breckey said: So I was briefed on an interesting tidbit regarding the 09 Majors board today. Apparently there is a new (~5 Jul 18) congressional report that is required to be run by the services IG concerning officer eligibility for promotion. This system was already in place for O-6+, however not for the lower ranks. Anybody that is up for promotion that has had a "public" negative indicator will be reviewed at a later time as was mentioned earlier. The main driver for this may have been some Missileers that were involved in the Malmstrom cheating scandal in 2014. Although their LORs were removed from their UIF in the intervening years, their records are being further scrutinized since they were involved in a very public scandal. Hopefully the process will be further vetted for the later year groups (10-11) that were also heavily involved. This new scrutiny caught many O-6 off guard as well. Just so we're clear, the guidance is: It's ok to screw-up, just don't do it publically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Breckey said: So I was briefed on an interesting tidbit regarding the 09 Majors board today. Apparently there is a new (~5 Jul 18) congressional report that is required to be run by the services IG concerning officer eligibility for promotion. This system was already in place for O-6+, however not for the lower ranks. Anybody that is up for promotion that has had a "public" negative indicator will be reviewed at a later time as was mentioned earlier. The main driver for this may have been some Missileers that were involved in the Malmstrom cheating scandal in 2014. Although their LORs were removed from their UIF in the intervening years, their records are being further scrutinized since they were involved in a very public scandal. Hopefully the process will be further vetted for the later year groups (10-11) that were also heavily involved. This new scrutiny caught many O-6 off guard as well. The real fun part about this guidance is that if you even have an investigation open, they'll withhold your promotion until it finishes. So if you've got that one airman that doesn't like you because you gave him an LOR for being late to work, it could delay your promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 So they are trying to prevent future leadership embarrassment by vetting the public life of its people? OK, if that’s what we’re doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war007afa Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Round 2 sans PRFs for O-4 board... https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1613364/major-laf-promotion-board-scheduled-for-december/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, war007afa said: Round 2 sans PRFs for O-4 board... https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1613364/major-laf-promotion-board-scheduled-for-december/ After wings have already written them. Again. Over-under on this board having the same delays as the last one? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, pawnman said: After wings have already written them. Again. Over-under on this board having the same delays as the last one? I’d say over again by 3 months from the original date they should have the results by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Did they ever promote the 200 “you got promoted but we don’t want to promote you” people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 10 hours ago, pawnman said: Over-under on this board having the same delays as the last one? Duck's future isn't riding on this one, so it'll be on time. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) CY19 board schedule out biggest change I see is Lt Col board is now 3 months earlier. Board convenes in March vs June. Edited September 5, 2018 by bennynova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 CY19 board schedule out biggest change I see is Lt Col board is now 3 months earlier. Board convenes in March vs June. That brings the Lt Col board back to the “normal” timeline of March board for a June release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Just saw the advisory from higher: 0518 board results delayed "30 days" due to hang-ups at the "national level". Duck, somehow this is your fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Not surprised. This is now taking money directly out of people's pockets. First increments for this board's selectees already pushed from 1 Oct to 1 Nov. Won't be surprised if this delay pushes it further back to 1 Dec. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Not surprised. This is now taking money directly out of people's pockets. First increments for this board's selectees already pushed from 1 Oct to 1 Nov. Won't be surprised if this delay pushes it further back to 1 Dec. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile appHow so? October is finishing up this year’s line numbers. Even with a month delay they can start pinning on the next batch on time in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 How so? October is finishing up this year’s line numbers. Even with a month delay they can start pinning on the next batch on time in November.Because they changed the monthly quotas not long ago to drag last year's line numbers into October. Was 123 per month through Jun and was projected to finish out in September. 123 x 3 = 369. 92 x 3 + 93 = 369. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 This happens every year with every board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Just saw the advisory from higher: 0518 board results delayed "30 days" due to hang-ups at the "national level". Duck, somehow this is your fault.Confirmed on MyPers. They are probably trying to find out how wide they can open up the BTZ floodgate given the people in that year group who have bailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) Af! Edited September 6, 2018 by bennynova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Champ Kind said: Confirmed on MyPers. They are probably trying to find out how wide they can open up the BTZ floodgate given the people in that year group who have bailed. So there's hope for my 1BPZ with a promote?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Sure, there's always a reason to hope! It's my primary COASent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war007afa Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) So as the board results slide further right, the risk of accountability dates happening before promotion announcements becomes a definite possibility. You'd think we do this promotion board thing a few times a year or something and would establish some sort of repeatable process. If we can’t even get the simple things done like pushing out results, how are we as a service supposed to trust that the hard part like selecting promotees is done right? Edited September 7, 2018 by war007afa iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 If we can’t even get the simple things done like pushing out results, how are we as a service supposed to trust that the hard part like selecting promotees is done right?It isn’t. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time.Say what? Is continuation going to be automatic, with no option to decline?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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