Thanks again for the perspective, everyone.  I think I'm probably most useful as a flier, and damn right, it's what I joined to do, so there's not much sense in pointless thrash if odds will stay 50/50.  Better to be a reliable crewdog than the alternative.  I'll check back in with results once all this plays out.

On 9/13/2023 at 9:48 PM, Khruangbin33 said:

Thanks again for the perspective, everyone.  I think I'm probably most useful as a flier, and damn right, it's what I joined to do, so there's not much sense in pointless thrash if odds will stay 50/50.  Better to be a reliable crewdog than the alternative.  I'll check back in with results once all this plays out.

The cool thing about this path (besides the fact that Robin Olds would respect you) is that you can smoke cigarettes and get fucked up again in public.  Its like being in UPT but you have wings, a paycheck and the street cred to act like a bad ass.  Congrats man!   

P.S.  The bar chicks' tits are a little saggier than back in the UPT days and they're probably living in the trailer park by the bar, lol but who cares at this point in life.  You're a fucking pilot!  

14 hours ago, Biff_T said:

The cool thing about this path (besides the fact that Robin Olds would respect you) is that you can smoke cigarettes and get fucked up again in public.  Its like being in UPT but you have wings, a paycheck and the street cred to act like a bad ass.  Congrats man!   

P.S.  The bar chicks' tits are a little saggier than back in the UPT days and they're probably living in the trailer park by the bar, lol but who cares at this point in life.  You're a fucking pilot!  

Maybe at the bars you hang out at Biff…never had that saggy trailer park problem once I left the Deep South. Although the metropolitan chicks come with their own issues. Glad I’m married now and don’t have to deal with the me too movement. 
 

But yes…nothing wrong with being a gray beard iron major. Just make sure you’re square with that down the road and don’t have regrets. 

At an all-call yesterday, our OG said there might not be an O-4 board for the 16YG.  I was tracking that the board would likely move to February to accommodate the SCOD.  But no board whatsoever?  Anybody have the inside scoop on this?   

1 hour ago, BE36 said:

At an all-call yesterday, our OG said there might not be an O-4 board for the 16YG.  I was tracking that the board would likely move to February to accommodate the SCOD.  But no board whatsoever?  Anybody have the inside scoop on this?   

That is somewhat correct, they have just moved the board to line up with the SCOD, and there will be 2 O5 boards this year due to the SCOD changes. Nobody says big blue makes logical decisions some times. The O-3 SCOD was too close to when the MLR got the  prf’s. 

On 1/12/2024 at 11:42 PM, cragspider said:

That is somewhat correct, they have just moved the board to line up with the SCOD, and there will be 2 O5 boards this year due to the SCOD changes. Nobody says big blue makes logical decisions some times. The O-3 SCOD was too close to when the MLR got the  prf’s. 

Yet another reason SCODs are dumb.

Any idea how far back it will be moved? Nothing on myfss indicates the timeline for the 16YG.

Edit: Disregard, found a note that says Jan/Feb 2025. Wonder if that means results now won't release until Dec 25 instead of Jan 25?

Edited February 5, 20241 yr by LiquidSky

The Air Force is once again showing disdain for their hardest working, highest performing people…that have the most options on the outside.

18 minutes ago, yellerfever said:

The Air Force is once again showing disdain for their hardest working, highest performing people…that have the most options on the outside.

Dang.

 

Guess this is the plan:

4 hours ago, yellerfever said:

The Air Force is once again showing disdain for their hardest working, highest performing people…that have the most options on the outside.

Gotta figure out some way to pay for the $50k bonuses we tricked a bunch of 27-year-old-second-assignment-no-ground-duties bros into taking.

 Anybody have previous years’ increments handy?

What year group is the AD O-5 board this year, 2010?

2 hours ago, jice said:

Gotta figure out some way to pay for the $50k bonuses we tricked a bunch of 27-year-old-second-assignment-no-ground-duties bros into taking.

 Anybody have previous years’ increments handy?

You talking about that early bonus thing?  Did anyone actually take it?

15 hours ago, yellerfever said:

The Air Force is once again showing disdain for their hardest working, highest performing people…that have the most options on the outside.

Gotta pump those Air Force Ball bake sales and CGOC numbers up! Air Force doesn’t care whether you’re a good  pilot or not. 

16 hours ago, yellerfever said:

The Air Force is once again showing disdain for their hardest working, highest performing people…that have the most options on the outside.

I tell you what; you can have my O-5 line number (I pin in 60 days) if the Air Force will let me early retire.  I'm in law school right now at Georgetown and I think my career will be much more promising on the outside and far less stressful.  Not a pilot though so I am one of the lower performer, less hard working people.  

I’ll tell you this that the AAD thing is back with a vengeance. I BFM’d that requirement to O-5 DO gig and then went from top Strat to bottom 1/3 for next rack and stack. When I asked why they said that since that’s a requirement for O-6 and not having one shows you don’t want to be an O-6, they don’t want you to be a commander since that’s a step to O-6. Sigh.

19 hours ago, yellerfever said:

The Air Force is once again showing disdain for their hardest working, highest performing people…that have the most options on the outside.

Nevermind the fact that LAF-A is twice the size than some of the other Devcats you are referencing...

31 minutes ago, Danger41 said:

I’ll tell you this that the AAD thing is back with a vengeance. I BFM’d that requirement to O-5 DO gig and then went from top Strat to bottom 1/3 for next rack and stack. When I asked why they said that since that’s a requirement for O-6 and not having one shows you don’t want to be an O-6, they don’t want you to be a commander since that’s a step to O-6. Sigh.

Thats fucking horseshit.  AF leadership has already stated they're having/going to have a problem producing & retaining qualified people for Sq command; now they're back to levying an artificial requirement for command that will drive more good people away.

Thats ing horseshit.  AF leadership has already stated they're having/going to have a problem producing & retaining qualified people for Sq command; now they're back to levying an artificial requirement for command that will drive more good people away.

Don't tell AFSOC, they still probably think IDE-in residence is the mark of leadership. Doesn't matter that the number of school slots in the command is less than CC/DO slots.

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2 hours ago, DirkDiggler said:

Thats fucking horseshit.  AF leadership has already stated they're having/going to have a problem producing & retaining qualified people for Sq command; now they're back to levying an artificial requirement for command that will drive more good people away.

I don’t doubt it, but don’t confuse me with a good person.

8 hours ago, RJ09 said:

Not a pilot though so I am one of the lower performer, less hard working people.

These non-rated peasants are finally starting to recognize supported vs supporting…

4 hours ago, Standby said:

These non-rated peasants are finally starting to recognize supported vs supporting…

bad news buddy...you can be rated and not a pilot

7 hours ago, Day Man said:

bad news buddy...you can be rated and not a pilot

Ya, but why would you do that?

Personally I'd rather be in the back of an ACJ shooting than the pilot tbh...until it comes time to go to the airlines.

Senior rate release on 9 Apr for P0423E.

Bump regarding Letters to the Board.  Since this topic was brought up in another thread for purposes of hastening separation, I figured I'd ask the question here for those who are trying to achieve the opposite effect.  Internet consensus seems to be that 1) most letters do more harm than good, and 2) you should really ask an O-6 for their opinion before you send something dumb.  Any wisdom out there for someone who does not have access to an O-6 in real life?

Board members have very little time to review records. Sometimes the paper doesn't tell the story; most times it does.

Letters fail for multiple reasons including excessive emotion, demonstrate lack of responsibility/accountability, don't address the issue(s), redundant to the record, or are far too verbose. 

If you write a letter, it should succinctly bridge a records gap the board members can't resolve without said letter. 
 

Edited October 11, 20241 yr by Herkdrvr