Ramping up against the Houthis in Yemem

[ClearedHot]

Houthis target US fighter jet, drone with SAM missiles for first time

Artcile just says "SAMS", no mention of MANPAD or something more nefarious....but they engaged an F-16 and a Reaper.

[TreeA10]

I think the current admin will exercise the right to return fire. 

[Clark Griswold]

Meanwhile at Hellfire/JDAM/Griffin/SDB suppliers…

[Clark Griswold]

But yes bomb the shit outta them

[BashiChuni]

i think the navy has been going pretty hard the last few months

[raimius]

10 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

i think the navy has been going pretty hard the last few months

Do we not do phrasing anymore?!

[StoleIt]

Haven't the Houthi's been downing Reapers on and off for a while now?

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthi-rebels-american-mq9-reaper-drones-2ca2dc1c5316ca5473c3843d97780b2b

[FourFans]

1 hour ago, raimius said:

Do we not do phrasing anymore?!

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, StoleIt said:

Haven't the Houthi's been downing Reapers on and off for a while now?

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthi-rebels-american-mq9-reaper-drones-2ca2dc1c5316ca5473c3843d97780b2b

Yes, but popping missiles at Vipers is somewhat new (at least int he news). 

[ClearedHot]

The fight against the Houthis is getting ugly. 

Today the Truman came under fire and had to take evasive action.  In doing so An F-18 that was under tow fell overboard taking the tow vehicle with it.

US Navy loses $60 million jet at sea after it fell overboard from aircraft carrier

Maneuver kill?

[BashiChuni]

playing with fire with them boats out there...it's only a matter of time before they get lucky.

 

[McJay Pilot]

10 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

playing with fire with them boats out there...it's only a matter of time before they get lucky.

 

[Clark Griswold]

Keep bombing them to whatever was before the Stone Age


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[StoleIt]

46 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

Keep bombing them to whatever was before the Stone Age


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Ice Age.

Now you've triggered the climate change crowd...jeez.

Edited Tuesday at 02:59 PM by StoleIt

[skybert]

7 hours ago, StoleIt said:

Ice Age.

Now you've triggered the climate change crowd...jeez.

So warm em up

[DFRESH]

 

[Pooter]

Maybe im just the dirty hippy around here but Obama, Biden, and the Saudis bombed the houthis for the better part of two decades (which Trump called stupid during the campaign) so what exactly is gonna be different this time?

Actually I know what’s different.. we’re taking significantly more losses this time

[GKinnear]

5 hours ago, Pooter said:

Maybe im just the dirty hippy around here but Obama, Biden, and the Saudis bombed the houthis for the better part of two decades (which Trump called stupid during the campaign) so what exactly is gonna be different this time?

Actually I know what’s different.. we’re taking significantly more losses this time

Wrong:  Obama took it to AQAP (which was in gang war with the Houthis)

Wrong:  Biden took steps to remove the Houthis from the target list (removed from the Terror list)

Right:  Saudis bombed the Houthis.

Too bad we're not playing baseball, otherwise, your .333 batting average might be impressive.

[Pooter]

2 hours ago, GKinnear said:

Wrong:  Obama took it to AQAP (which was in gang war with the Houthis)

Wrong:  Biden took steps to remove the Houthis from the target list (removed from the Terror list)

Right:  Saudis bombed the Houthis.

Too bad we're not playing baseball, otherwise, your .333 batting average might be impressive.

Biden (and coalition) bombing the houthis for the fifth time in January of this year  

https://apnews.com/article/biden-houthis-yemen-shipping-attacks-fc5c1ed40f4e370bed81670bfdda0899#
 

Obama - my mistake.. hard to keep track of which group of baddie brown people are the latest hotness. 
 

So I ask again, how is it going to be different this time and why is the president pursuing a strategy he actively mocked as stupid and futile during the campaign. 

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, Pooter said:

Obama - my mistake.. hard to keep track of which group of baddie brown people are the latest hotness.

Channeling your inner Al Sharpton...when he proves you wrong you pivot to vague racist comments? 

[Pooter]

So asking why we’re bombing people makes me the racist? 

I just want someone.. anyone to tell me wtf the plan is here. I see a lot of cheerleading in this thread as if our policies in the Middle East haven’t been a continuous string of political and ethical disasters for at least 20 years.

[Clark Griswold]

So asking why we’re bombing people makes me the racist? 
I just want someone.. anyone to tell me wtf the plan is here. I see a lot of cheerleading in this thread as if our policies in the Middle East haven’t been a continuous string of political and ethical disasters for at least 20 years.

The plan:
Keeping the shit to shoe level

- Work with Israel and partners quietly to disrupt and eliminate threats
- Deter and reduce Iranian influence
- Destroy the Houthi movement attempting to restrict access to international water ways to anyone but Chinese,Iranian ships
- Hold at risk Iran while attempting to negotiate a decent nuclear deal
- Keep an eye on Turkey
- Intervene minimally in Syria to prevent reversion to another version of the IS

All if those missions are to keep the Chinese out. It’s not perfect but it’s better than ceding it to them as a sphere of influence


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[GKinnear]

10 hours ago, Pooter said:

Biden (and coalition) bombing the houthis for the fifth time in January of this year  

https://apnews.com/article/biden-houthis-yemen-shipping-attacks-fc5c1ed40f4e370bed81670bfdda0899#
 

Obama - my mistake.. hard to keep track of which group of baddie brown people are the latest hotness. 
 

So I ask again, how is it going to be different this time and why is the president pursuing a strategy he actively mocked as stupid and futile during the campaign. 

However, Biden's removal of the Houthis from the Foreign Terror Organization list meant previous authorizations against terror groups like AQ and ISIS couldn't be utilized...every strike was a "self defense" strike.

Which honestly, was a weak legal argument to me (Kinesiology major from a small land grant college...so caveat emptor) since we could always just remove ourselves from the Houthi-controlled territory instead of striking them.

The Houthis are a client of Iran, and the Biden admin was very soft on Iran, so anything more would run against his administration's intent.

Biden didn't know or care to direct a deliberate campaign to neutralize a non-internationally recognized group from using weapons of war against the only democratically government in the Middle East, nor did he know or care enough to use appropriate force to remove the threat to US, Israeli, and others flagged vessels moving international shipment through one of the 7 global strategic chokepoints. And everything @Clark Griswold stated.

So no....Biden did not bomb the Houthis in any meaningful way.

The current Trump 2.0 admin is the only admin since forever to deliberately order military action against the Houthis specifically.

This isn't rocket surgery...

[ClearedHot]

7 hours ago, Pooter said:

So asking why we’re bombing people makes me the racist?

"Baddie Brown people? " Just stop man...a completely useless comment. 

Question the strategy all you want...I think we all want to see something solid so we don;t get sucked into another rabbit hole but your comment was classless.

[Lawman]

However, Biden's removal of the Houthis from the Foreign Terror Organization list meant previous authorizations against terror groups like AQ and ISIS couldn't be utilized...every strike was a "self defense" strike.
Which honestly, was a weak legal argument to me (Kinesiology major from a small land grant college...so caveat emptor) since we could always just remove ourselves from the Houthi-controlled territory instead of striking them.
The Houthis are a client of Iran, and the Biden admin was very soft on Iran, so anything more would run against his administration's intent.
Biden didn't know or care to direct a deliberate campaign to neutralize a non-internationally recognized group from using weapons of war against the only democratically government in the Middle East, nor did he know or care enough to use appropriate force to remove the threat to US, Israeli, and others flagged vessels moving international shipment through one of the 7 global strategic chokepoints. And everything [mention=20373]Clark Griswold[/mention] stated.
So no....Biden did not bomb the Houthis in any meaningful way.
The current Trump 2.0 admin is the only admin since forever to deliberately order military action against the Houthis specifically.
This isn't rocket surgery...

If the Houthi’s kept their stupidity between them and the Saudis… we’d largely stay out of it.

I don’t know why people can’t seem to understand that we have a centuries old tradition in “____ with my ships and find out!” It’s not like this is the first time we’ve went into CENTCOM to protect the sea lanes.


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