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  • @filthy_liar Just so I've got this straight, you were an ALO in Oct 2001 who went into Afgh with the first wave.  You claim to be a prior A-10 pilot, which means you're a early to mid-1990's comm

  • I was volunteered non-voluntarily to be a T-38 FAIP at Columbus in the magnolia state back the late 80s.  I don't remember the students, I don't remember the class, I don't remember the year but I do

  • Seventeen years on gunships, first 3 1/2 as a gunner, never seen the naked gunner hug. On a man anyway. I have seen naked gunners in the showers at various locations, there were no hugs. The initial d

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2 minutes ago, gearhog said:

Some years later I found his card in my deployment stuff and googled his name wondering what happened to him. Turns out around the time I had met him, he had been accused of "losing" between $1 and $2.3 TRILLION dollars at the DoD. It was gone, unaccounted for. It was spent, but no one knows where it went. He immediately became a board member at Booze Allen after he left his SecDef position, of course.

 

 

fucker.  Hope he ends up in jail

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11 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

danger didn't you guys find the 23mm and kill it before the helos flew over it? my memories are hazy...but i remember watching the absolute chaos unfold in the TOC.

there's also a story about 3 x u-28s working a crazy stack one night that deserves to be told...one day...

I think we had the Gunship get a P-kill on the dudes running it because we tried to get the Vipers to drop a 500 pounder on it but we couldn’t make it happen due to airspace constraints with the border being 200 meters away and too many engagements going on simultaneously to get a clear bomb fall deconfliction. But honestly, my memory is kind of crappy at this point. My brain prioritized COD Zombies with the Ray Gun and gun game dominance.

I didn't know that,  Danger is a bad mother fucker,  He is,  I probably gave him shit earlier.  Holy shit, look at that.

41 minutes ago, Danger41 said:

I think we had the Gunship get a P-kill on the dudes running it because we tried to get the Vipers to drop a 500 pounder on it but we couldn’t make it happen due to airspace constraints with the border being 200 meters away and too many engagements going on simultaneously to get a clear bomb fall deconfliction. But honestly, my memory is kind of crappy at this point. My brain prioritized COD Zombies with the Ray Gun and gun game dominance.

Gun game was the shit. SHISHHHHH SHISHHHHH SHAWWWWWW

3 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

She doesn’t read well, it’s not her fault.

This is a fucking cocksucker.  Can we not get of this?

9 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

Well you just opened up the well.  Gunships eh?  Do tell.  And you Gunship bros have an awful lot to tell when it comes to war stories.

There I was, I shot a lot of people, I came home...repeat 69 times. 

Happy?

So there I was, back in Afghanistan over a decade after my first trip in country.  Not an American outside the wire, ROE so strict that pretty much all we could do is watch shit happen...  JAGs/Engagement authority scared of their own shadows.  Complete waste of money/assets, not to mention our time/morale.  6 months later, we dumped that place faster that your crazy ex-gf that keyed your car.  Many who hadn't thought much of going to the airlines decided to make that jump because of that trip.  The end.

11 hours ago, gearhog said:

Corruption runs in the family, apparently, and we get to pay for it.

 

Meanwhile, we'll fry someone who served honorably for 20+ years for piddly bullshit.  

9 hours ago, SocialD said:

So there I was, back in Afghanistan over a decade after my first trip in country.  Not an American outside the wire, ROE so strict that pretty much all we could do is watch shit happen...  JAGs/Engagement authority scared of their own shadows.  Complete waste of money/assets, not to mention our time/morale.  6 months later, we dumped that place faster that your crazy ex-gf that keyed your car.  Many who hadn't thought much of going to the airlines decided to make that jump because of that trip.  The end.

Unfortunately there are way more of these sentiments than badass stories.  And I don't disagree with your overall assessment.  Complete waste of money and assets and a complete drain on morale.  But I do like hearing the stories from the badasses.  Even if it was a shit show to begin with.

9 hours ago, SocialD said:

Meanwhile, we'll fry someone who served honorably for 20+ years for piddly bullshit. 

Also, unfortunately true.

On 2/5/2023 at 1:45 AM, hindsight2020 said:

Fair amount of close calls, To say nothing of all the funerals of direct co-workers(2), and students (2) in the last 6 years than I care to share on this message board. 

You’re not wrong.  UPT is a dangerous business.  Closest I came to death was my T38 initial form solo.   We were nose high, in a turn, and slow in fingertip.  Lead kicked me out to fighting wing.  I had no SA on my airspeed, pulled the throttles slightly and stalled, falling straight toward his vertical stab.  I had no idea how close we had come until we pulled the tapes.  

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If you think back on all of the hairy shit you found yourself in...UPT ranks right up there.  It's embarrassing but true.

@filthy_liar

Just so I've got this straight, you were an ALO in Oct 2001 who went into Afgh with the first wave.  You claim to be a prior A-10 pilot, which means you're a early to mid-1990's commission - UPT - first assignment - then on to be an ALO.  Following that, you had to immediately transitioned into B-1s as you were at Diego launching sorties into theater in 2005.  With those combat feathers in your hat, you'd be a sure thing for O-6 in the early 2010s, and then possibly retire in the mid 2010's...which O-6's rarely do.

So, as an ALO, a position attached at the hip to the DIV CG, command staff, and most definitely the DFSCOORD, who was your CG during the first push into afgh?  I know that's decidedly not classified.  The ALO never goes first unless the Div staff goes first, and they didn't.  Most definitely not on 19/20 Oct 2001...even with that 30 minute time difference.  Where were you during all that?  What unit were you attached to?  When you went into country, what herk unit hauled you in?  I probably know them.  You also claim to have been through Ranger School, when we didn't start sending ALOs through that school until...never...and didn't send hardly any AF (there were a very select few) through until post 9/11, most of whom were TACP and an enlisted troops.  After that, how'd you transition over to the B-1 at a time when competent and experienced A-10 pilots were at a premium?  Sounds like a rather unique path.

You don't sound like the kind of guy that would be hungry to hear other peoples war stories with so many of your own to tell.

The fact is: Your cavalier perspective and voice don't match any of the individuals I've personally known to tread the paths you claim to have tread.  They were all solid, respectful, continuing-to-self-educate professionals.  You come off as none of those.  Those of us who've actually seen the elephant up close rarely come back story-thirsty.  Prone to drinking...definitely.  But never thirsty to relive most of those harrowing experiences in so slovenly and exaggerated fashion as you put on.

Beyond that, you admitted to being banned here at baseops several times.  Care to share the previous handles?

If we're to have a solid thread of war stories, I think we'd all prefer to keep the BS out.  You seem to fit that bill.

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I actually know at least one brigade ALO that went to Ranger school in the mid 90s. B-52 radar nav (!).  

2 hours ago, 60 driver said:

I actually know at least one brigade ALO that went to Ranger school in the mid 90s. B-52 radar nav (!).  

I stand corrected!

38 minutes ago, FourFans130 said:

I stand corrected!

Minor detail. Completely agree with the rest. 

Press. 

 

e:  Hiflyer had some pretty good war stories from the OV-10 in Vietnam a while back. 

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2 hours ago, uhhello said:

 

It takes a minute to Google all those answers. 🙄

On 2/7/2023 at 1:20 PM, brabus said:

You forgot to also ask which BUDS class he was in (that’s classified by the way).

Which makes me wonder, do the SEALs of the sky have their own special BUDS class?

27 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Which makes me wonder, do the SEALs of the sky have their own special BUDS class?

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2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Which makes me wonder, do the SEALs of the sky have their own special BUDS class?

I think so. Upon graduation you’re authorized to mix and match boot colors when rehacking long gun qual. 

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