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The first one seriously ed some people up.  Will Joe remain feckless and allow this to go unchallenged?

It’s not Joe making that decision


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Until Americans actually die, I don't think they'll do shit.

5 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

The first one seriously fucked some people up.  Will Joe remain feckless and allow this to go unchallenged?

Very aware and connected 🙂

The first one seriously ed some people up.  Will Joe remain feckless and allow this to go unchallenged?

If anybody wants to know, Garrett’s surgeries have gone as successful as can be currently hoped for.

There is still bits of shrapnel in his head that will probably have to come out in a future attempt, but he’s stable condition now.

Long way to go from there, but he got moved from Landstuhl back to Walter Reed a couple days ago.


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Video series on a WW3 scenario, offered for entertainment and thread churning:
 

I love his series even if it overstated what it turned out to be real Russian capabilities.

The scene where the US Brigade commander is on the VTC and is cut off mid sentence with the President because of his gawd damned cell phone got his head quarters targeted was great. We’ve been preaching that for years to be ignored by people who are too important to not have their phone.


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I love his series even if it overstated what it turned out to be real Russian capabilities.

The scene where the US Brigade commander is on the VTC and is cut off mid sentence with the President because of his gawd damned cell phone got his head quarters targeted was great. We’ve been preaching that for years to be ignored by people who are too important to not have their phone.


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Same
That was a very realistic idea as evidenced by both sides in Ukraine War
Timeline in the 30s seems plausible after the Ukraine war ends probably in a year or two


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1 hour ago, Clark Griswold said:


Same
That was a very realistic idea as evidenced by both sides in Ukraine War
Timeline in the 30s seems plausible after the Ukraine war ends probably in a year or two


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you think the Russian economy/military is going to recover to a level higher than what they were at at start of Ukraine war in less than 15 years?  

1 hour ago, uhhello said:

you think the Russian economy/military is going to recover to a level higher than what they were at at start of Ukraine war in less than 15 years?  

Depends, if the rest of the authoritarian world and parts of the Global South ignore the sanctions on them now and likely after the conflict ends / suspends they’ll bounce back better than we want

They got problems but they got means too, more natural resources and a scientific / industrial base that’s capable 

Russia is never as strong as she seems nor as weak as she seems, my guess is their national pride is stronger than our post modern corporate nihilistic leaders want to believe, I think 10 years after they stop fighting in Ukraine they will be capable of significant military local power projection.

On 1/20/2024 at 1:27 PM, ClearedHot said:

The first one seriously fucked some people up.  Will Joe remain feckless and allow this to go unchallenged?

Election is now filling up the sight picture. To really get a message across we need to hit Iran's ability to produce oil and make money with an eye to minimizing civilian casualties. The greatest threat to the Iranian leadership are the rank-and-file Iranians and we don't want them to feel pressure to rally around that leadership with casualties. OTH lot's of executions seem to be happening lately and tend to keep the natives in line. I'm all for hitting their oil industry HARD but that will likely lead to a spike in worldwide oil/gasoline prices and now we just circled back to the election. At some point we'll have no choice but to really hit them and that I fear will be when we lose troops. My 0.02

33 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

I just want to go on record saying that I didn’t trust the UN well before October of last year…

“UNRWA fires 12 staffers who allegedly took part in October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel, US cuts funding”

https://nypost.com/2024/01/26/news/un-fires-staffers-who-allegedly-took-part-in-october-7-hamas-terrorist-attacks-on-israel/

UNRWA spoke at one of our academy political science conventions; I knew back then that they were a bunch of terrorist sympathizing lunatics. 

3 American Servicemembers were Killed and at least 24 Injured last night in a One-Way “Suicide” Drone Attack by Iranian-Backed Forces near the Al-Tanf Military Base in Northern Jordan.

2 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Horrible - will we remain weak or turn loose some whoopass?

Agreed, infuriating.

My guess is another “proportional and measured” response, although with a bit more teeth, but well short of what is required for our enemies to fear us.  The SECEEF should resign in disgrace, this outcome has been obviously inevitable.

A Congressman should have to kill himself/herself if an American dies overseas for their (Our government's) stupidity. 

Clean out congress.   When WWIII happens (I think history might say we're in the beginning stages of it), I wouldn't trust some of our leaders to keep us safe.   I think they like money more than Americans.  

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Get to the Choppa

30 minutes ago, Biff_T said:

they like money more than Americans

Truth

2 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Agreed, infuriating.

My guess is another “proportional and measured” response, although with a bit more teeth, but well short of what is required for our enemies to fear us.  The SECEEF should resign in disgrace, this outcome has been obviously inevitable.

He’s pretty useless but I have a feeling our responsiveness, or lack thereof, is driven by higher echelons than OSD.

42 minutes ago, dream big said:

He’s pretty useless but I have a feeling our responsiveness, or lack thereof, is driven by higher echelons than OSD.

You aren't wrong, but I have a particular disdain for Austin due to his decisively harmful meddling in this incident; I was in a position to see up close what a craven political creature he is.  Sentiments that have amplified since he became SECDEF and sold us out during the fall of Kabul, where I also witnessed his (and others) deliberate injects which emboldened enemies and hurt friendlies.

Regarding the current thing and authorities at his level: there have been many proactive opportunities which he's declined.  We need accountability.

2 hours ago, uhhello said:

Rest Easy Lads

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With 'leaders' like this, who needs enemies...    Oh wait...now we have enemies too...

Out at Tower 22 near Al Tanf. 3 FKIA, 34 FWIA, 8 critical evacuees. Damn.

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