October 11, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, brabus said: Sure, that’s great. They should do their best, but given the existential threat to their survival, and the fact they were attacked horribly in their own beds, it’s not prudent to just play whack-a-mole. They need to eradicate Hamas AND their sympathizers to have any real chance at a more stable and secure future. Handing a little slice of ass and then walking away isn’t going to cut it. History has repeatedly demonstrated that. Hezbollah, Iran, etc. are all watching - the message they receive is also very important for Israel’s future. Lesson of Rolling Thunder vs Linebacker II. Measured responses promise continued fighting.
October 11, 20232 yr measured responses do not work in war. especially in a region that only understands/respects total domination of the enemy. paradoxically a gloves off full total war response is more humane than years of "measured responses" (afghanistan/korea/vietnam)
October 11, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: measured responses do not work in war. especially in a region that only understands/respects total domination of the enemy. paradoxically a gloves off full total war response is more humane than years of "measured responses" (afghanistan/korea/vietnam) This as well. But, how do we make money off of a quick war though? 🤔 That's why we wont allow it. We have a lot of weapons to sell.
October 11, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Negatory said: Hi, so called “leftist” Ron Burgundy here. If you think that anyone who is slightly liberal supports Hamas, I think you’re confused. The only support for Hamas and the Palestinians is coming from the left, correct? Let me know if you need some examples…or does highlighting the worst of a group only work when the left does it to the right?
October 11, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Negatory said: Hi, so called “leftist” Ron Burgundy here. If you think that anyone who is slightly liberal supports Hamas, I think you’re confused. JFC dude are you serious? have you seen the pro hamas demonstrations breaking out all across college campuses and major cities?
October 11, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Negatory said: Israel has contributed to Israel-Palestine instability via effectively running an apartheid state how is that possible considering israel withdrew from gaza in 2006 and hamas has been running that territory, yet it continues to be a shit hole? JFC dude
October 11, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Negatory said: Just want to point out that folks like you are why alternative viewpoints don’t engage, and why this place has gently flowed back into being the echo chamber it’s always been. Here’s a pretty comprehensive view of why people believe that Israel is still oppressing Palestine, although I know this will be dismissed for no logical reason: https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf Yeah…a leftwing progressive site. Why am I not surprised? But “echo chamber”…or something. https://nypost.com/2022/03/14/amnesty-international-is-no-longer-a-human-rights-group-its-just-another-progressive-lobby/
October 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Negatory said: Just want to point out that folks like you are why alternative viewpoints don’t engage, and why this place has gently flowed back into being the echo chamber it’s always been. Here’s a pretty comprehensive view of why people believe that Israel is still oppressing Palestine, although I know this will be dismissed for no logical reason: https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf Want to be clear, I don’t support Hamas or anyone who does. You seem to be getting your parties in a wad, but you don’t even understand why. so you don't support the left. got it.
October 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Negatory said: My point was that he wasn’t going to find someone on this forum that is pro Hamas’s actions. I am. I hope those f*ckers keep doing everything they are doing and more/worse. So that way the entire world will acknowledge the lack of reason for them existing; we need them to continue to show who they are and continue to demonstrate how little they care for life so the bleeding hearts don't start taking pity on/for them. Let's see evil for exactly it is and crush it once and for all. We are a nation and society that has become immune to realities of war and fascinated with it because too few have actually been there. Time for the atrocities to be seen so it can finally take the "cool" out of war for those that haven't seen it. Edited October 11, 20232 yr by RegularJoe It edited my profanity
October 12, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, BashiChuni said: how is that possible considering israel withdrew from gaza in 2006 and hamas has been running that territory, yet it continues to be a shit hole? JFC dude The blockade of a country by two countries that surround it and the ocean next to it usually negatively impacts said country. I’m not saying I disagree with the blockade entirely, but it definitely doesn’t help the civilians trying to survive in Gaza. I’ve got to say, as a generally conservative individual, every time you wade into a political/philosophical discussion I can’t help but imagine you as Billy Madison talking about the puppy that lost his way. You are the Omar/Tlaib of the right on BO, and every time you post something with zero critical thought that was spewed by Fox News, this is the reaction from the rest of the conservatives. How are you not on comment CAP after mistaking the CJCS as the CSAF. You realize the uniforms are a different color right? Edited October 12, 20232 yr by Boomer6
October 12, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Biff_T said: Writing some excuses as to why its OK for innocent children to be decapitated and set on fire. I am tired of Beta Males and stupid bitches fucking up the world. Send them to Gaza as peace keepers. Please go. Put your money where your mouth is. Show us how to solve this problem with peace and understanding. They will applaud you. You will change the world with your hollow words. Remember abortion (killing of some sort of helpless creature inside of a woman)? War is like abortion for adults. Here is your time to shine with your Palestinian lovers. Which Baseops.net forum members have written anything supportive of Hamas burning and decapitating children?
October 12, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, DirkDiggler said: Which Baseops.net forum members have written anything supportive of Hamas burning and decapitating children? I do believe Biff was speaking in hyperbole. @Biff_T I realize that’s a lotta syllables I just banged together there, but I got ya! 🍻
October 12, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, DirkDiggler said: Which Baseops.net forum members have written anything supportive of Hamas burning and decapitating children? None. 17 minutes ago, McJay Pilot said: I do believe Biff was speaking in hyperbole. @Biff_T I realize that’s a lotta syllables I just banged together there, but I got ya! 🍻 This and thanks!
October 12, 20232 yr The whole thing sucks. No easy way for either side. Maybe they just need to fight it out. We fought it out against the British, Natives, Spaniards and French. We even fought each other. Let them fight. Get the civilians out and whoever wins can continue to "live" in God's country. No American soldiers this time. That's how every other country was formed on planet Earth. Why stop now?
October 12, 20232 yr Author Biden saw beheaded babies: https://x.com/natsecjeff/status/1712213351101591907?s=46 Oops, Biden did not see beheaded babies. https://x.com/venturareport/status/1712271660945191352?s=46 Where the beheaded babies story likely originated: https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/
October 12, 20232 yr Maybe the right answers to move everybody from Gaza to the west bank. At least then your problem is centralized in one location. That needs to be some sort of definitive action that stands as a long-term consequence to this attack. Whether that means 100,000 people need to die, or the Palestinians need to be in a materially worse position now than they were before the attack, just going in and surgically killing "terrorists" is not going to do it.
October 12, 20232 yr https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjnq5nU5fCBAxVMkmoFHYqUBZsQFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2023%2Foct%2F12%2Ffirst-thing-no-power-water-fuel-gaza-until-hostages-freed-israel-says&usg=AOvVaw1VgIRo4xpV1Wg3MoGRln8w&opi=89978449 Looks like the lights stay off until the hostages are released. This might be the one thing that can get the locals to put pressure on Hamas. Good example of effects-based targeting IMHO
October 12, 20232 yr Haven't seen any video of beheaded babies but I did see a video that puts that in the realm of possibility. The Hamas animals had shot a guy and he is laying on the ground probably dying but not dead. So, seeing how this person is defenseless, why not not kick him in the head and beat on him with your gun or whatever you have handy. The guy on the ground makes a very weak attempt to cover his face. At this point, one of these barbarians enters the video with a large rusty garden hoe and begins to chop at this guys neck to cut his head off. Again, the defenseless guy on the ground is not dead when this begins but after a few wacks, he isn't moving anymore. Curtis Lemay said, "You kill enough of them, they will stop fighting." Israel needs to kill enough, preferably all, of them so they leave Israel and hopefully the rest of civilization alone.
October 12, 20232 yr https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547 Feel like this could backfire. By not allowing riots to kill Jewish people, they might get more riots to kill all kinds of people. Are they really going to deport 10% of the population of France if they push the issue?
October 12, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, NKAWTG said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547 Feel like this could backfire. By not allowing riots to kill Jewish people, they might get more riots to kill all kinds of people. Are they really going to deport 10% of the population of France if they push the issue? Yeah, I definitely don’t support this…but let’s pretend that France has freedom of speech, or many of the other liberties we have in the US.
October 12, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, NKAWTG said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547 Feel like this could backfire. By not allowing riots to kill Jewish people, they might get more riots to kill all kinds of people. Are they really going to deport 10% of the population of France if they push the issue? You can't have a functional society where a large segment doesn't believe in the core philosophies. In this case, that all innocent people have a right to live in peace. So yes, eventually they will have to deport them. It won't be this time, but eventually minority groups in all countries (including the Middle East) will have to decide if they are going to assimilate to the host culture, leave, or die.
October 13, 20232 yr Author Within the last few, my daughter sent me videos of angry Pro-Palestine demonstrations at her college campus. I'm over-looking a protest from my hotel room. My company just sent a blast email to be on the alert for threats to our operation. Apparently, tomorrow is a "Day of Rage" or "Global Jihad". 3 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: You can't have a functional society where a large segment doesn't believe in the core philosophies. In this case, that all innocent people have a right to live in peace. So yes, eventually they will have to deport them. It won't be this time, but eventually minority groups in all countries (including the Middle East) will have to decide if they are going to assimilate to the host culture, leave, or die. I think there's no way that happens. Even if it was possible, the minute you go after masses of these groups for deportation, the whole place burns to the ground. But imagine being able to rally the people of a host nation enough to collect these minorities and haul them away. What does that look like? Train cars?
October 13, 20232 yr Humanitarian aid to Iran re-freezed. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/iran-barred-from-accessing-6-billion-released-by-u-s-for-humanitarian-aid-report-says/ar-AA1i6X03
October 13, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, gearhog said: Within the last few, my daughter sent me videos of angry Pro-Palestine demonstrations at her college campus. I'm over-looking a protest from my hotel room. My company just sent a blast email to be on the alert for threats to our operation. Apparently, tomorrow is a "Day of Rage" or "Global Jihad". I think there's no way that happens. Even if it was possible, the minute you go after masses of these groups for deportation, the whole place burns to the ground. But imagine being able to rally the people of a host nation enough to collect these minorities and haul them away. What does that look like? Train cars? It'll happen during a war time situation. Could be similar to the Japanese internment. Who knows? The demographics of Europe, China, Russia, and Japan are devastating. Unless someone comes up with a miracle solution, it's going to lead to strife in about 20 years. If somehow the Muslim populations find a way to integrate, then it won't be an issue. But if anything the situation has gotten worse in the countries with meaningful percentages of high density Muslim neighborhoods. The problem is that we (as a society) are now realizing that immigrant populations of drastically different cultures do not integrate if they reach a critical mass and are able to create homogenous communities within the host nation. And it doesn't matter how much free electricity or water you give them, it doesn't seem to deradicalize the population. Hamas has everything to lose from what they did, and it'll likelihood the organization will be annihilated. They knew that, and they did it anyways. Americans and the rest of the west have this strange obsession with analyzing jihadist commentary as some sort of code, instead of just taking them at their word. Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh: "We love death like our enemies love life! We love Martyrdom, the way in which [Hamas] leaders died." You cannot live in harmony with people who do not value life itself. Eventually you realize, as Israel is now (re)learning, the only thing you can do is give them a death that does not involve your own citizens dying by their hand. Kill them, before they kill themselves slaughtering infidels.
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