Standby Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 57 minutes ago, arg said: There were several incidents, and I think two crashes, with the rudder actuator going full travel or something like that. Is this one of the mishaps you were thinking of? AA587 Crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arg Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Is this one of the mishaps you were thinking of? AA587 CrashNo, they were 737sSent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGazmo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 No, they were 737sSent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app737's had a rash of bad PCU's in the 90's I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeA10 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Standby said: Is this one of the mishaps you were thinking of? AA587 Crash That was attributed to pilot error doing a full rudder deflection swap which caused the rudder to fail. Not that I agree with the findings but that's what they said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 You're thinking of these 737 mishaps... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_585 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAir_Flight_427 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire4effect Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Good breakdown on a very head scratching investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arg Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 hours ago, fire4effect said: Good breakdown on a very head scratching investigation This was it. Back then if you were going anywhere in the states chances were good you were going on a 73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoleIt Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/30863-air-france-boeing-777-incident-bea-update?utm_source=facebook.com Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Cool, another French crew with very different opinions on which direction the plane should be moving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkbum Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Cool, another French crew with very different opinions on which direction the plane should be moving...This was my thought as well. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Stiglitz Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: Cool, another French crew with very different opinions on which direction the plane should be moving... Question for the Airbus drivers: if these guys were in an A330 instead of a 777 would this have been another AF447, or was there there some kind of update after that crash to make competing commands more obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said: Question for the Airbus drivers: if these guys were in an A330 instead of a 777 would this have been another AF447, or was there there some kind of update after that crash to make competing commands more obvious? The jet bitches at you if both sides are making inputs … and one side can completely override the other now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyEng Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Juan Brown posted the latest update on his Blancolireo YouTube channel of the AirFrance 777. Apparently the two pilots were inadvertently fighting each other on the controls and decoupled the yokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGazmo Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Juan Brown posted the latest update on his Blancolireo YouTube channel of the AirFrance 777. Apparently the two pilots were inadvertently fighting each other on the controls and decoupled the yokes. Pilot error.... who'd a thunk? I guess teaching the phrase, "My aircraft" doesn't exist in AF's training program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arg Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 6:57 AM, HeyEng said: Juan Brown posted the latest update on his Blancolireo YouTube channel of the AirFrance 777. Apparently the two pilots were inadvertently fighting each other on the controls and decoupled the yokes. 1983 or so, two LtCs in the seats. Right after take off each one thought they were flying the plane. They were both trying to trim the airplane so when one let go the tabs moved. One calls runaway elevator trim, the other says I've got it too. Only took a few seconds to figure out and I had already announced that emergency trim was selected. First and only time I had self induced runaway trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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