15 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

taking over ukraine was never russia's strategic goal. post cold war i never saw them as a threat to us. meanwhile we have depleted a metric shit ton of weapons supporting that comedian zelenski while the real threat china lurks in the pacific. hardly something to be celebrating about.

Have we?

Have you seen what we "depleted" giving things to Taiwan or are you just parroting the talking points?

31 Abrams Tanks

300 Bradleys

180 155MM Artillery pieces

72 105MM artillery pieces

18 155MM Paladins

10,000 Javalins

10,000 TOWs

ATACMS

2 Harpoons...TWO!

Not a lot of need for any of this in a fight with China over Taiwan.

The fight with China is about BIG stand-off, maybe if we degrade enough you can argue the AGM-88s HARM, but they have all been older versions.

We did give some ALD-160 MALD missiles, again all older and the new jammer version is being delivered to USAF in quantity.

On the Air-to Air Front we gave them:

AIM-7s - oh the humanity...whatever will we do without the great white whale?

AIM-9M - Old!

AIM-130A/B/C8 - Again older variants and if you know anything about air to air procurement you would know a LOT of new stuff was already in production and being delivered when the war started.

Only two weapons system concern me:

Patriot - The Ukrainians are now making them indigenously.

Artillery rounds - production has quadrupled and they are still wanting to produce more, but that is not for a fight with China.

Have you bothered to look at the NDAA and what the services are trying to buy on the weapons front? ALL Standoff, goolge FAMM, SCM, JDAM-LR...

3 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

taking over ukraine was never russia's strategic goal.

Oh, that’s right, those Russian paratroopers in Kyiv were peacekeepers.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by frog

30 minutes ago, frog said:

Oh, that’s right, those Russian paratroopers in Kyiv were peacekeepers.

paratroopers do not take over a country.