12 hours ago, Gazmo said:

If the Air Force could somehow convince the airlines to rewrite the book and do away with a seniority based promotion system alla Emirates. Then people wouldn't be so spring loaded to jump ship for a line number in hopes for accelerated seniority.   Then guys would be "promoted" based on how "hard" they work or how much ass they kiss.

FIFY.    

Edited April 14, 20178 yr by SocialD

11 hours ago, FlyinGrunt said:

Ugh.  I'll bait him.  Chang, I won't even argue with you, but do keep in mind the epic exodus that would occur the second Stop Loss was lifted.  It's a net loss, long-term.  There's always a better option, unless we start trading nukes with North Korea.  And if something like that happens, you won't need Stop Loss - because we ARE patriots, and we WILL stay to defeat the enemy.

Insert ad hominem ad infinitum, bitter Cannon comment, and Congressional corruption zinger.  Close with incrimination of average American handout taker.

If nukes are traded you won't be here anymore. If South Korea and Japan are nuked, we wouldn't be fighting for anything at that point. I highly doubt anybody in the Army or Marines will deploy to a nuclear wasteland to fight a war. You want to die from the medical treatment at the incompetent VA hospital or from radiation exposure? I'm good and I will pass on that patriotism because I've had enough exposure to the burnpits and poo ponds.

Edited April 14, 20178 yr by No2bonus

15 hours ago, Gazmo said:

If the Air Force could somehow convince the airlines to rewrite the book and do away with a seniority based promotion system alla Emirates. Then people wouldn't be so spring loaded to jump ship for a line number in hopes for accelerated seniority.

The seniority system is the only way to ensure that safety is the #1 factor motivating decisionmaking, vs trying to "look good" for management.

 Sockpuppet.  Nice.  I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets.

I do not advocate for stop loss.  I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able.

For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today.  I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering.  We are ramping that program back to full capacity.  ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity.  Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col.  We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs.  This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity.

If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence.  We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities.

26 minutes ago, General Chang said:

For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today.  I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering.....

 ...This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity.

Love those snippets! I'm sold!! Where do I bend over and take it??!

36 minutes ago, General Chang said:

 Sockpuppet.  

Your satire is on a level of Andy Kaufman if not more so. You need to stop 'cuz the train has left the fvcking rails. Young, impressionable cadets and Lts don't realize you're using a reductio ad absurdum argument style.

If it isn't satire and you 100% believe what you post, then you need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and get your priorities revectored. I don't think the Commissars of the Red Army drank that much kool-aid.

Our military is the greatest, not because of the equipment, but because of the people...they WANT to be here. Compare present-day vs conscript (draft) heavy days of 'Nam. 180 degrees out from each other. To echo @pawnman and others, when is enough enough? I'd argue that zero time is enough in that no citizen currently is forced to serve. The 4-yr ADSC for new non-rated Os and 4-yr enlistment is to get payback on an investment in training. As soon as they raise the hand and swear an oath, they've done more than 90% of their fellow countrymen. Fvcking Stop with the patriot bullshit argument; it's academically lazy. Most dudes on this board have had bros give it all for the Flag, or have had to stand in formation as the family watched their loved one be ceremoniously transferred off the jet at Dover. The patriotism angle has already be satisfied...move on.

My challenge to you still stands; join the RPA force as a 18X Pilot. Pay your dues on the line and then maybe (doubtful) catch a clue. Your post history leads me to believe you couldn't lead a wet sack of dog shit, let alone a group of Airmen.

Edited April 14, 20178 yr by GKinnear
I still can't use the word FVCKING? Ludicrous

I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets

Absolutely not. But you have yet to post anything positive, at least as it relates to anyone other than yourself


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2 hours ago, General Chang said:

... and despite what Gina said,

Gina?  Seriously?  Good lord...

4 hours ago, General Chang said:

 Sockpuppet.  Nice.  I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets.

I do not advocate for stop loss.  I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able.

For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today.  I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering.  We are ramping that program back to full capacity.  ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity.  Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col.  We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs.  This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity.

If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence.  We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities.

Fellas, this dude is clearly just fucking with everyone.  Not worth even a second of your time - it's all bullshit.

Yeah, Gina...

You young-uns need to stop "liking" his posts, it just encourages him.


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Do any of the airlines have an AFPAK Hands program?  Mine doesn't.

13 hours ago, General Chang said:

 Sockpuppet.  Nice.  I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets.

I do not advocate for stop loss.  I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able.

For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today.  I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering.  We are ramping that program back to full capacity.  ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity.  Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col.  We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs.  This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity.

If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence.  We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities.

I just watched three dudes at 18 forgo a 20 year retirement to dodge a 365.  If you think AFPAK hands is going to help your cause, you are out of your ever-loving mind.

Christ, people!  Chang is a classically trained troller.  His last post was a dead giveaway and he probably overplayed his hand.  You all take him way too seriously.  It's kind of funny actually.

Edited April 15, 20178 yr by WAG
meh

Christ, people!  Chang is a classically trained troller.  His last post was a dead giveaway and he probably overplayed his hand.  You all take him way too seriously.  It's kind of funny actually.

Agreed, it seems he just likes to poke the hornets nest. I'm willing to bet he is a nobody, and referring to Grosso as "Gina" was also a giveaway.

Did anyone see that video on FB of Everhart asking AMC airmen for inputs on how to fix the pilot manning? The serious lack of real leadership is almost comical.


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2 hours ago, MooseAg03 said:

Agreed, it seems he just likes to poke the hornets nest. I'm willing to bet he is a nobody, and referring to Grosso as "Gina" was also a giveaway.
 

Concur.  My money's on either GS-5 working in some closet at AFPC or a SrA personnelist who failed 4x PT tests and was administratively separated, now living in his mom's basement.  Either way, classic troll just churning for a reaction.

Concur.  My money's on either GS-5 working in some closet at AFPC or a SrA personnelist who failed 4x PT tests and was administratively separated, now living in his mom's basement.  Either way, classic troll just churning for a reaction.

My money is on a pilot trolling everyone.

2 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

 

My money is on a pilot trolling everyone.

 

I'll second that. Gotta be a pilot since he knows exactly how to push everyone's buttons.  

To whoever is giving voice to Chang, well played sir, well played. 

Nah, my money he's a shoe. Doesn't take a pilot to get the pilot lingo. Look at scoobs for fvck's sake, impersonating a Guard/Res pilot since what, 2004? 

Christ, people!  Chang is a classically trained troller.  His last post was a dead giveaway and he probably overplayed his hand.  You all take him way too seriously.  It's kind of funny actually.

Finkel Ehinhorn. Finkel. Ehinhorn. Ehinhorn finkel. Finkel is Ehinhorn. Chang is Wag?


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I think it's rainman. 

25 minutes ago, HossHarris said:

I think it's rainman. 

Shhhhh, don't wake him.

On 4/14/2017 at 6:18 PM, General Chang said:

 Sockpuppet.  Nice.  I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets.

I do not advocate for stop loss.  I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able.

For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today.  I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering.  We are ramping that program back to full capacity.  ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity.  Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col.  We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs.  This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity.

If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence.  We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities.

Well we know he is at least a 3 star since he is on a first name basis with "Gina" Grosso.

Well we know he is at least a 3 star since he is on a first name basis with "Gina" Grosso.

Or he is Gina...


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On April 15, 2017 at 8:51 AM, GKinnear said:

Your satire is on a level of Andy Kaufman if not more so. You need to stop 'cuz the train has left the fvcking rails. Young, impressionable cadets and Lts don't realize you're using a reductio ad absurdum argument style.

Greg,

You are right.  I am sorry.