To foot stomp what Viper said, I didn’t intend for my use of “doxxing” to mean going after family, kids at school, etc. I should have been more clear earlier. What I mean is calling out the individual publicly to employers, neighbors, parents at schools (if said individual works at a school), local FB groups, etc. Screenshots of these POS humans SM posts are going viral on X, with their employers tagged (for example), which has resulted in multiple firings. That’s the kind of thing I want to see a lot more. There must be immediately impactful consequences for that kind of rhetoric, and losing income is one of those consequences.  

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1 hour ago, Day Man said:

I don't agree with killing someone for exercising their first amendment rights. I also don't recall this level of backlash or attention when the Hortmans were assassinated in MN...why the difference? I couldn't find any associated posts here after searching 'hortman' or 'minnesota'

1. charlie kirk is nationally known. some state senators not so much.

2. his assassination was captured up close in graphic detail. 

3. this is clearly a political assassination. i don't even know who killed the hortmans. did they ever publish a motive or find the killer? i honestly don't know. kirk's death is a visual symbol of a direct attack on the first amendment. 

 

11 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

3. this is clearly a political assassination. i don't even know who killed the hortmans. did they ever publish a motive or find the killer? i honestly don't know. kirk's death is a visual symbol of a direct attack on the first amendment. 

The suspect in their killing had a list of pro-abortion figures, so yes, it was definitely political. 

 

I do not recall a single prominent conservative making excuses for or celebrating their murders. 

Copy, ridicule of cuck-sauruses in the public commons of social media was your intent. No problem with that.

Viper I'd say the assassin took the nuclear option here because conservatives have been making progress against liberals the last few years, but I get your point.

5 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

Viper I'd say the assassin took the nuclear option here because conservatives have been making progress against liberals the last few years, but I get your point.

If this ends up being another trans shooter, then I have to disagree. 

 

We've tolerated and enabled the delusions of mentally ill people, both trans-identifying and the homeless, for years. Now we are reaping the bitter rewards of this feel-good bullshit. More people will die.

You can't tell the most unhinged people in your society that anyone who doesn't participate in their fantasy is trying to "unalive" them. Just like you can't tell them that their democracy is dying, or a literal tyranny is being imposed upon the people. These tragically unstable citizens do not have the ability to detect hyperbole. They are taking the political rhetoric literally, and acting in a purely logical fashion if you accept their initial premise. 

If anyone on this forum believed that we truly were close to losing our democracy, we all would have a very different relationship with our personal firearms.

Trump on Fox and Friends just said they have the suspected shooter in custody.

Son of a cop and a social worker....father turned him I after he confessed to him that he did it.

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/trump-says-with-a-high-degree-of-certainty-suspect-in-charlie-kirk-killing-caught

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Bullet casings found near the rifle were engraved several messages, according to Gov. Cox. Inscriptions included "Notices Bulges OWO What's this?" on a fired casing. On three unfired casings, inscriptions included "Hey Facist! Catch!" with one up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows, "Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao Ciao Ciao" and a third casing read "If you read this, you are gay, lmao."

 

6 hours ago, SHFP said:

From a Delta bro…

It’s possible that there might actually be appropriate actions for one’s consequences. What a novel concept.

Why’d Kirk get a military honor guard and flown back on AF2?


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57 minutes ago, McJay Pilot said:

It’s possible that there might actually be appropriate actions for one’s consequences. What a novel concept.

Nah....the union will come rushing to their rescue.

49 minutes ago, contraildash said:

Why’d Kirk get a military honor guard and flown back on AF2?


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I saw a C-17 in PHX too.

Delta has 130 million plus Medallion members alone.  Say only a minuscule, 10,000, don’t spend $500-1000 a ticket for one year to protest.  Well I think Delta will do the math.   They will be offered early retirement to move on.  Otherwise Pax will, now and then, ask who’s flying….

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Nah....the union will come rushing to their rescue.

Glad none of my dues will be going to that effort… at least until someone at my company steps on his or her dick. 

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2 hours ago, contraildash said:

Why’d Kirk get a military honor guard and flown back on AF2?


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Thats my only gripe with all this shit.  Talks of viewing in the Capitol (state) as well.  

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I saw a C-17 in PHX too.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2025/09/11/jd-vance-charlie-kirk-body-phoenix/86096344007/

4 hours ago, McJay Pilot said:

From a Delta bro…

It’s possible that there might actually be appropriate actions for one’s consequences. What a novel concept.

I hope they’re both fired with zero severance pay. Teri has always come off as an unhinged lunatic - zero surprise she’s persona non grata in this case. 

If Vance was on AF-2 the C-17 usually transports his limo’s and Secret Service Detail. Normal ops.

13 hours ago, contraildash said:

Why’d Kirk get a military honor guard and flown back on AF2?


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GMAFB?

Funny you never asked the question the other way...

• George Clooney: The actor accompanied Biden on Air Force One in June 2024 for a major campaign fundraiser in Los Angeles.
• Julia Roberts: Roberts also flew with Biden for the star-studded Los Angeles fundraiser in June 2024.
• Jimmy Kimmel: The late-night host was a guest on Air Force One with Biden and other celebrities for the fundraiser event in Los Angeles.
• Sean McGarvey: A top union official, McGarvey was one of a group of union workers invited by Biden to tour the aircraft in September 2024

Those aren't the same.  From now on, I expect Vance to transport the remains of the next military member that is killed in action.

GMAFB?
Funny you never asked the question the other way...

• George Clooney: The actor accompanied Biden on Air Force One in June 2024 for a major campaign fundraiser in Los Angeles.
• Julia Roberts: Roberts also flew with Biden for the star-studded Los Angeles fundraiser in June 2024.
• Jimmy Kimmel: The late-night host was a guest on Air Force One with Biden and other celebrities for the fundraiser event in Los Angeles.
• Sean McGarvey: A top union official, McGarvey was one of a group of union workers invited by Biden to tour the aircraft in September 2024

Check yourself bud. I just asking a simple question, don’t make into something it isn’t. Plus your counters are not the same situation. We all know every president, from both parties, has transported their supporters, friends, ect. Thanks for stating the obvious but with through a singular lens.

For the sake of non political bullshit, the correct rephrasing could be this: How many times has a civilian’s remains, a.k.a. someone with no official government position or former military service, been transported on military or state aircraft inside CONUS. I get that we’ve recovered people from overseas, it just seems very extraordinary for it to happen here at home.


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1 hour ago, contraildash said:

it just seems very extraordinary for it to happen here at home.

I’ve never heard of the same type of scenario playing out, not to say it has never happened. That said, I’m not going to be upset about this or take it as a slight against military members, their sacrifice, etc. This tragedy is an extraordinary moment in our history, so it’s not a crazy notion to do things that treat/emphasize it as such.

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Those aren't the same.  From now on, I expect Vance to transport the remains of the next military member that is killed in action.

Remember Vice President Vance and Charlie were close friends and Vance wouldn’t be where he is without Charlie’s support and help. This is a close friend flying in to pay respects and help out his friend and family. It just so happens that he has access to a C-32 to do this. 
 

Could have Trump sent his personal 75 for this? 100% he could have, but it would have his of kids on it and not a USAF plane to fly them. But then if Vance wanted to go he’d have to take the C-32 so that answers that. 

The left has been pushing hate and rage for years, inciting violence constantly. This has culminated in a leftist (or at least someone who bought the left’s rhetoric to an extent) assassinating someone. Conservatives aren’t starting a war, the left started this war many decades ago, and they have really crossed the line now. We may be at a significant FAFO moment in our history - remains to be seen what that means in the coming weeks/months/years.

Necessary disclaimer: the term “left” used above does not describe those that simply have liberal views on economics, healthcare, social services (e.g. welfare), etc. It describes those who hold views diametrically opposed to American/Christian values and seek to destroy those ideas and institutions. Examples are movements like Antifa and BLM, people who openly cheer, or at least tacitly support, murder of those they disagree with, etc.

18 minutes ago, Negatory said:

 I do wonder how the media is going to spin the fact that the shooter was a white male christian….

Tell me why you assert the shooter was a Christian.