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[brabus]

19 hours ago, Banzai said:

It is a deep symptom of societal rot when it is partisan to want to know who is associated with epstein.

Amongst us non-politicians, it’s not partisan. Polls show the vast majority of Americans, independent of party affiliation, want all of it released. Now what some of the politicians do may be different. So it’s more accurate in this specific case to say political/elite class rot, not simply societal rot.

 

[disgruntledemployee]

May I draw a potential parallel?  The types that are very tired of the political elite, financial elite, royalty, etc., the ones that Trump stirred up to win some elections, might view this "Epstein List" as another tool to take down more of those elites.

Or they just viciously despise pedos.  Could be both.

[GrndPndr]

I've been around since Moses, and I've seen so many "peace" agreements announced - then dashed, faded or crushed away.  What's different this time?  Seems it's really down to what POTUS has added to (or over) the mix.

Anyone care to speculate on what types of inducements were offered both the Israelis and Hamas to make this a different type of peace?  I haven't seen any compelling offerings from the parties which might offer insight into the ingredients of this new dawn for Gaza.

[ViperMan]

1 hour ago, GrndPndr said:

I've been around since Moses, and I've seen so many "peace" agreements announced - then dashed, faded or crushed away.  What's different this time?  Seems it's really down to what POTUS has added to (or over) the mix.

Anyone care to speculate on what types of inducements were offered both the Israelis and Hamas to make this a different type of peace?  I haven't seen any compelling offerings from the parties which might offer insight into the ingredients of this new dawn for Gaza.

I think Hamas realized that Israel was willing to go the full distance, and Trump probably told them (Hamas) he's not going to stop a full expulsion. Meaning they would displace each and every Palestinian from Gaza and just take all the land. I mean they're 69% of the way there anyway. Basically a full GTFO. Now, Hamas gets to hang on and maybe can have one more chance to accept a peaceful coexistence.

[TreeA10]

I think Trump was going to allow the IDF to invoke the Gen. Lemay theory of "You kill enough of them, they will stop fighting." After the Israelies put a missile into a building in Qatar probably with U.S. blessing, supporters of Hamas had to take the theory seriously.

[brabus]

11 hours ago, ViperMan said:

maybe can have one more chance to accept a peaceful coexistence

Which is a 100% guarantee not going to happen. I’m honestly surprised Israel didn’t go to 100% destruction/expulsion and take every square inch of Gaza land.