The Next President is...

[HeloDude]

Well, just three weeks out and I’d say it’s a toss-up to slight lean for Trump.  Kamala is going to do an interview with Brett Baier on Fox…if she was winning then I doubt she would be taking this unnecessary risk.  At this point I won’t be shocked if either one wins.

ETA:  It won’t be “live” but according to Brett it will be unedited with no commercials

Edited October 15, 2024 by HeloDude

[Lord Ratner]

52 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Well, just three weeks out and I’d say it’s a toss-up to slight lean for Trump.  Kamala is going to do an interview with Brett Baier on Fox…if she was winning then I doubt she would be taking this unnecessary risk.  At this point I won’t be shocked if either one wins.

ETA:  It won’t be “live” but according to Brett it will be unedited with no commercials

The Democrats are absolutely terrified that the polls still skew in favor of Democrats, as they have for the last couple election cycles. If that's the case, Trump has it in a landslide (by modern standards, not like Reagan).

[uhhello]

She's apparently rumored to be on Rogan too.  Doubt that will happen as he won't allow edits.

[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said:

The Democrats are absolutely terrified that the polls still skew in favor of Democrats, as they have for the last couple election cycles. If that's the case, Trump has it in a landslide (by modern standards, not like Reagan).

I’m pretty confident that both campaigns have internal polls that tell them how they’re doing…so when Trump says he won’t do another debate and Kamala says she’ll do an interview on Fox, I think that’s both very telling. 

[brabus]

2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

The Democrats are absolutely terrified that the polls still skew in favor of Democrats, as they have for the last couple election cycles. If that's the case, Trump has it in a landslide (by modern standards, not like Reagan).

An observation amongst people I know is conservatives actively avoid pollsters and liberals do not. Obviously that’s not 100% applicable across all voters, but it is interesting when you look at polls with that observation in mind.

Edited October 15, 2024 by brabus

[BFM this]

3 hours ago, uhhello said:

She's apparently rumored to be on Rogan too.  Doubt that will happen as he won't allow edits.

There’s a bunch of rules her team would insist on that JR would laugh at.

[Day Man]

On 10/12/2024 at 8:08 AM, BashiChuni said:

trump always rambles and goes down rabbit holes during speeches.

or just stands there for 30 min listening to the ViIlage People and Sinead O'Connor 😂

[herkbier]

Can they both lose? Or is the only option on the table: we all lose?

[dream big]

9 minutes ago, herkbier said:

Can they both lose? Or is the only option on the table: we all lose?

These were valid options during the primary. Trump legitimately won his though. 

[SpeedOfHeat]

All the talk of winning vs. losing is hilarious.  <<Spoiler alert>>  If Trump wins, he and his supporters will say he won and the election was free and fair.  If he loses, he will absolutely say it was rigged/stolen/fixed, again. 

He has now laid the "it's rigged" groundwork ahead of three consecutive election cycles.  8 years of this bull$hit.  And yet the MAGA fans (pictured in the coonskin hat below) still can't figure out the obvious:  that it's just a guy with the world's most frail and vulnerable ego.  A sore loser, plain and simple.

[BashiChuni]

28 minutes ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

All the talk of winning vs. losing is hilarious.  <<Spoiler alert>>  If Trump wins, he and his supporters will say he won and the election was free and fair.  If he loses, he will absolutely say it was rigged/stolen/fixed, again. 

He has now laid the "it's rigged" groundwork ahead of three consecutive election cycles.  8 years of this bull$hit.  And yet the MAGA fans (pictured in the coonskin hat below) still can't figure out the obvious:  that it's just a guy with the world's most frail and vulnerable ego.  A sore loser, plain and simple.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/aug/21/stolen-rigged-and-illegitimate-democrats-long-hist/

 

"Democrats such as Hillary Clinton, Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams and dozens of congressional lawmakers have long objected to state and federal election results and have attempted to block every Republican presidential winner since 2000."

 

"“I believe he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” Mrs. Clinton told CBS News in September 2019."

Edited October 16, 2024 by BashiChuni

[SpeedOfHeat]

13 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

"Democrats such as Hillary Clinton, Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams and dozens of congressional lawmakers have long objected to state and federal election results and have attempted to block every Republican presidential winner since 2000."

"“I believe he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” Mrs. Clinton told CBS News in September 2019."

Yup, and shame on them.  Shame on candidates that lose and refuse to concede, that undermine confidence in our elections, and that call into question the legitimacy of the winner, simply to safeguard their bruised ego.  Shame on them, and especially so without any credible and/or compelling evidence of outcome-determinant fraud or suppression.

 

Ok, now your turn……  

[skybert]

NOOooooo! That’s entirely different!!! Because…….well because it is!!

[Lord Ratner]

2 hours ago, skybert said:

NOOooooo! That’s entirely different!!! Because…….well because it is!!

Nothing different about it. The American people, regardless of party, no longer trust "experts." They still trust *their* experts, but that's human nature. 

 

It's just a broader loss of faith in the institutions, which is warranted because the leaders of those institutions decided a while ago that the purpose of the institution was to further an ideological goal, instead of just doing-the-thing (collect taxes, prosecute crime, administrate education programs, preserve public land, research and defend against disease, etc). That's why Republicans have been (until Trump) weak on immigration despite the contradiction with rule-of-law, because they wanted to further a flawed view of unfettered capitalism. And Democrats have supported the greatest absurdities of affirmative action despite the contradiction with equality and colorblindness, because they wanted to further a flawed view of utopian equity. 

 

Trump and Bernie are the voters' anguished response to the liars leading the government, espousing values they do not uphold in their own lives or in the way they steer their organizations. Bernie just failed to stay true to his values (thank God), so he lost to the Democratic machine. Trump did not. 

 

Both are insane, but these are insane times🤷🏻‍♂️

[disgruntledemployee]

15 hours ago, Day Man said:

or just stands there for 30 min listening to the ViIlage People and Sinead O'Connor 😂

Trump is a pretty big Air Dicker too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1eplj7u/judd_apatow_on_trump/?rdt=62082

 

[uhhello]

Zero chance she goes on anything longer than 20 minutes after that amazing FOX interview 

[ClearedHot]

10 hours ago, uhhello said:

Zero chance she goes on anything longer than 20 minutes after that amazing FOX interview 

Did you hear the behind the scenes?  She showed 15 minutes late and curtailed the agreed upon time.  If she can't handle Brett Bair on Foxnews how is she going to stand toe to toe with Vlad or Xi Jinping?

 

 

[M2]

We are fucked.  It's now just a matter of how fucked we want to be!

[ClearedHot]

52 minutes ago, M2 said:

We are fucked.  It's now just a matter of how fucked we want to be!

Amen brother....340 million people in this country and we are down to these two clowns.

[HeloDude]

If you didn’t watch the Kamala interview last night, this clip about sums it up.  She was struggling so bad that her advisors told her she needed to do the interview, and now my guess is that she is doing even worse because of it.

 

[kaputt]

This is what happens when she can’t get the questions ahead of time. 

[Lord Ratner]

I think what's been made crystal clear over the last 4 years is that we have the dumbest presidential team in the history of America. Everybody knew Joe Biden was the idiot of the Senate, so there's no surprises there, but at least my impression was that Kamala was viewed as duplicitous and deeply political, but not stupid. 

 

There's no way around it at this point, she is actually unintelligent, at least by the standards one expects to be operating in national level politics. There hasn't been a new question asked of her in at least a month, just the same ones repeated over and over, and yet somehow she and her team haven't put together a functional response? I'm not saying it has to be honest, but this woman acts like every single question is the first time she's ever heard it. It's really quite stunning from a political malpractice standpoint. 

 

Same thing for Walz during the debate. How the hell did he not have an answer ready to go about his lying about tiananmen square? Or immigration? These are national level campaigns operating on nine-figure budgets. No one thought to put an answer together for that?

I don't want to make it sound like Trump is much better, he fucked up that debate pretty spectacularly, but he does a better job than Kamala and Tim. JD Vance however has done a much better job, and in fact the only thing I've seen him stumble on is January 6th, but it is painfully obvious he's not allowed to answer that question in any rational way because Donald Trump refuses any rational explanation.

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said:

I don't want to make it sound like Trump is much better, he fucked up that debate pretty spectacularly, but he does a better job than Kamala and Tim. JD Vance however has done a much better job, and in fact the only thing I've seen him stumble on is January 6th, but it is painfully obvious he's not allowed to answer that question in any rational way because Donald Trump refuses any rational explanation.

He is so narcissistic he can't help but throw inflammatory insults.  If he would just say "my policies worked" (mostly), we will repeat them, have a nice day then shut his freaking pie hole.

[Day Man]

8 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

I think what's been made crystal clear over the last 4 years is that we have the dumbest presidential team in the history of America.

injecting bleach? nuking hurricanes? i honestly can't tell if you guys are serious with this shit

9 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

he's not allowed to answer that question in any rational way because Donald Trump refuses any rational explanation

yeah, super weird...we should vote for them regardless 🙄

 

 

[Lord Ratner]

2 hours ago, Day Man said:

injecting bleach? nuking hurricanes? i honestly can't tell if you guys are serious with this shit

Both of those were actual ideas (you forgot swallowing a uv light) that have been investigated as solutions to problems. Did Trump read more than the title or the headline? No. But acting like he just made it up from thin air is simply incorrect. 

2 hours ago, Day Man said:

yeah, super weird...we should vote for them regardless 🙄

I don't get your point here? What's the difference between that and Walz not being able to answer honestly about immigration or the Afghanistan pullout? 

 

You're looking for differences where there are none. Plus, even if Trump is a moron (and I don't think he's particularly smart, just very, very media savvy), JD Vance is smarter than Trump, Harris, and Walz combined. And Pence was also rather smart, though not politically effective.

 

But the Biden Harris team takes the cake.