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Hideout Harris.  The great Khameleon. 

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26 minutes ago, SHFP said:

Hideout Harris.  The great Khameleon. 

I'm stealing that!

Then there is Warrior Walz.   The great Master and Commander, Super Gun Sergeant of Above All.  

21 hours ago, HeloDude said:

I’m talking about actual legal betting on who is going to win....  Even before Biden dropped out I thought that the election favored Trump, but I wouldn’t bet $10K on it…maybe I would bet a nice dinner and that’s about it.  

Copy.  I was hoping there'd be gambling for booze between BO members.  I jump at every chance.  One of the many things that makes this forum awesome!  So far everyone has paid up, minus one dude who I let off the hook because he was salty 😂.  Remember, if we aren't having fun in these posts we're doing it wrong.

9 hours ago, SHFP said:

 So I’ll be drinking it this week.  Thanks TAC

You're welcome!

Ok TAC, not sure of what to Bet on with you or other BOs.   Since POTUS was taken to the (Yellowstone) Train Station by the DNC, this whole Election S Show is now a real Cluster Fng Furball.  Hoping for the/another Reagan Revolution of the Silent Majority that I experienced.  But not hopeful.   In the interim,  I’ll be drinking anyway...LOL

 

Mr. Trump.  Please please please just shut the fuck up.  Its shut the fuck up Friday tomorrow.  Then shut the fuck up Saturday and so on.  You gain nothing by opening your mouth.  I'm voting this year strictly off past performance and projected performance.  One will keep this country around for a few more years and the alternative might not.  Please.  Shut the fuck up.  

Mr. Trump.  Please please please just shut the up.  Its shut the up Friday tomorrow.  Then shut the up Saturday and so on.  You gain nothing by opening your mouth.  I'm voting this year strictly off past performance and projected performance.  One will keep this country around for a few more years and the alternative might not.  Please.  Shut the up.  

Since he considers himself one of the greatest orators of all time, chances arrrrrreeee…

The VP isn't in the military chain of command, so why are generals who meet her saluting? Has this changed since I was in 30 plus years ago.

 

To be honest, I don't remember ever seeing a VP being greeted/disembarking before, but it just looked odd when I saw it earlier this week on one of her trips and the general saluted and she saluted back.

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20 hours ago, uhhello said:

Mr. Trump.  Please please please just shut the fuck up.  Its shut the fuck up Friday tomorrow.  Then shut the fuck up Saturday and so on.  You gain nothing by opening your mouth.  I'm voting this year strictly off past performance and projected performance.  One will keep this country around for a few more years and the alternative might not.  Please.  Shut the fuck up.  

I told ya (not you specifically, or did I).  I said pick someone else.  If MAGA/supporters just gave up on the dude, the spineless Rs in Congress drop him like a shit sandwich, RNC grow a pair and develop other talent, then maybe you'd have a different race, one that seems more about policy/plans/actions than crowd size.  But they/you had to have your dear leader and now face the very very real possibility that we're going to have President Harris.  Ugh. 

BTW, Trump can't shut up.  So get ready for 2.5ish more months of jibberish, tickity tacs.  From both of em.

When even the leftist Washington Post calls your proposals too far left, you have a serious leftist ideology problem.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-price-gouging-groceries/

Let’s call it what it really is, though: Bezos using his newspaper to challenge policies that would crimp his grocery business.

Might be true since he does own the Post, but not sure how he could lose. If she wins and does this, it actually would allow higher prices on really low margin items and keep the basic 1.5 to 2% margin on existing items. A loss for most of us, but Whole Foods would still keep their profits as more groceries go out of business.

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On 8/16/2024 at 6:38 PM, bfargin said:

The VP isn't in the military chain of command, so why are generals who meet her saluting? Has this changed since I was in 30 plus years ago.

 

To be honest, I don't remember ever seeing a VP being greeted/disembarking before, but it just looked odd when I saw it earlier this week on one of her trips and the general saluted and she saluted back.

Not sure about 30 years ago, but the (AF) regulations say you're supposed to salute the POTUS & VPOTUS, among others.

So the big "October Surprise"...Biden pardons his son, steps down, and Harris becomes President...thus helping to insure her being elected.  Probably all planned months ago by the DNC and the Democratic Cabal.  Hey, tac airlifter...you and me betting again?   

12 hours ago, Herkdrvr said:

Not sure about 30 years ago, but the (AF) regulations say you're supposed to salute the POTUS & VPOTUS, among others.

Nope.  "There is no requirement that military personnel salute the vice president, who has no active role in the chain of command," Eric Fleury, an assistant professor of government and international relations at Connecticut College said in an email. "The only civilian requiring a salute is the President, which he or she is not obliged to return."

Reagan started the tradition of returning the salute by presidents.  On Oct. 12, 1986, he delivered remarks to U.S. service members and their families in Keflavik, Iceland, and explained why he decided to start returning salutes to military troops.  "One night over at the Commandant's quarters, Marine Commandant's quarters in Washington, and I was getting a couple of highballs, and I didn't – [laughter] – know what to do with them. So, I said to the Commandant – I said, 'Look, I know all the rules about saluting in civilian clothes and all, but if I am the Commander in Chief, there ought to be a regulation that would permit me to return a salute,'" he said, according to a transcript from the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum. 

Fact check: Claims that Kamala Harris refused salute missing context (usatoday.com)

 

1.8. Customs and Courtesies. Our customs and courtesies reflect the unique nature of our profession and guide significant aspects of our behavior. We emphasize our strong bond with other military members, as well as our mutual respect for one another and our civilian leadership. See AFI 34-1201, Protocol; Air Force Pamphlet (AFPAM) 34-1202, Guide to Protocol. 1.8.1. Saluting. Saluting is a courtesy exchanged between members of the uniformed Services as both a greeting and a symbol of mutual respect. The basic rules regarding saluting are:

1.8.1.1. Airmen salute the President, Vice President, Secretary of Defense, Department Secretaries, all superior commissioned and warrant officers, all Medal of Honor recipients, and superior officers of friendly foreign nations.

 

https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_cc/publication/afi1-1/afi1-1.pdf

4 minutes ago, Day Man said:

1.8. Customs and Courtesies. Our customs and courtesies reflect the unique nature of our profession and guide significant aspects of our behavior. We emphasize our strong bond with other military members, as well as our mutual respect for one another and our civilian leadership. See AFI 34-1201, Protocol; Air Force Pamphlet (AFPAM) 34-1202, Guide to Protocol. 1.8.1. Saluting. Saluting is a courtesy exchanged between members of the uniformed Services as both a greeting and a symbol of mutual respect. The basic rules regarding saluting are:

1.8.1.1. Airmen salute the President, Vice President, Secretary of Defense, Department Secretaries, all superior commissioned and warrant officers, all Medal of Honor recipients, and superior officers of friendly foreign nations.

 

https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_cc/publication/afi1-1/afi1-1.pdf


DAFMAN 90-161 defines directive publications as “Publications to which adherence is mandatory. These publications implement mandatory guidance for publication users and deviation is not permitted without a waiver."

Pamphlets (e.g. DAFPAM, AFPAM or SPFPAM) are non-directive.

AF Publication Reduction (AFPR) Phase 3: Problem Statement Workshop

1 hour ago, M2 said:


DAFMAN 90-161 defines directive publications as “Publications to which adherence is mandatory. These publications implement mandatory guidance for publication users and deviation is not permitted without a waiver."

Pamphlets (e.g. DAFPAM, AFPAM or SPFPAM) are non-directive.

AF Publication Reduction (AFPR) Phase 3: Problem Statement Workshop

🤨 the verbiage to salute the VP is referenced directly in the AFI, not any pamphlet

I bet a guy in my unit at the beginning of the year that the DNC would wait until after the RNC convention to replace Biden. My logic was that Trump in the polls would lose to any other democrat. If Biden would have said he wasn't running last year, there's a chance that republican voters would have chosen another candidate. With Trump being competitive in the polls against Biden, he easily secured the nomination. I did however also think that the replacement was going to be Michelle Obama, however Harris worked to quickly in securing the nomination and prevented any challengers. 

I was kind of expecting Big Mike (BM) too. Kamala is similar to BM in her ideology, but is willing to bow/submit to any authority and do exactly what the DNC dictates. So in that sense, she is more controllable which is why she was chosen. 

I think BM would have been an automatic shoe in. Kamala is so bad the Rs, even with trump, have a 50/50 shot. The next 4 years are going to be interesting regardless of who is POTUS.

8 hours ago, bfargin said:

I was kind of expecting Big Mike (BM) too. Kamala is similar to BM in her ideology, but is willing to bow/submit to any authority and do exactly what the DNC dictates. So in that sense, she is more controllable which is why she was chosen. 

I think BM would have been an automatic shoe in. Kamala is so bad the Rs, even with trump, have a 50/50 shot. The next 4 years are going to be interesting regardless of who is POTUS.

If it’s anything like 2016-2020 sign me up twice. 

I, for one, am looking forward to Harris implementing all of Bernie Sanders’ and Elizabeth Warren’s top economic policies.

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