MooseBoost Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Safety report is out...got the brief a few days ago...they're damn lucky they walked away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBoost Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Don't remember which post someone asked about the C-5 wingtip strike in, but just came across this on reddit....looks like the entire radar came off with it too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 THUNK. Two C-5Ms down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 THUNK. Two C-5Ms down? At any given time? Probably like 30. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyEng Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yea, it looks like the damage is all the way up to the demarcation of the old radome. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooter Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Meh, s**t'll buff out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Gimme a case of speed tape and a B-5 stand, ETIC is tape+4hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Gimme a case of speed tape and a B-5 stand, ETIC is tape+4hrs. Sounds like MX minutes, kinda like football minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherManC130 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Reminds of when the A380 ran into the CRJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jango220 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Gimme a case of speed tape and a B-5 stand, ETIC is tape+4hrs. "Well sir, the MESL doesn't say you need a radome or wingtip, so I think you should take it as-is..." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Guessing that's at FJDG? Hey at least salty corrosive air won't be a problem while they fix it... Did they ever get that B-1 out of Guam? The one that was in the hangar with the tail sticking out a couple years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbar Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Guessing that's at FJDG? Hey at least salty corrosive air won't be a problem while they fix it... Did they ever get that B-1 out of Guam? The one that was in the hangar with the tail sticking out a couple years? Yep. http://www.tinker.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123150506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 "Well sir, the MESL doesn't say you need a radome or wingtip, so I think you should take it as-is..." "...otherwise it'll be an ops cancel." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "...otherwise it'll be an ops cancel." Crew directed mx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Saw this gem a while back, when the daily CANX report from the CP was going out to KWRI/ALL in Outlook: OPS CANX D2 72+HR ETIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercster Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Am I the only one that doesn't care if it gets reported as an ops or mx cnx? Maybe I'm fortunate that my DO is smart and as long as I have a good reason - like V3 ch4 says I can't go without ###, who cares what goes on the daily PowerPoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUSEPLUG Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't think most ops guys actually care who the cnx goes to. I start to lose my sh!t when the other party(s) blatantly lie about the reason to put the blame on someone else. I've seen this multiple times at a deployed location where a crew bends over backwards to try to make the mission happen, but just can't do it (MX, WX, cargo). The next day the delay code is on the crew explained with a flat-out lie as to why it was an ops cnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Pipes Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't think most ops guys actually care who the cnx goes to. I start to lose my sh!t when the other party(s) blatantly lie about the reason to put the blame on someone else. I've seen this multiple times at a deployed location where a crew bends over backwards to try to make the mission happen, but just can't do it (MX, WX, cargo). The next day the delay code is on the crew explained with a flat-out lie as to why it was an ops cnx. How about when they blame the delay or canx on the first party not to meet the SOE? Showed up at the window at Ramstein once 61 mins after alert, but when we showed up at the jet it wasn't loaded because ATOC only had one team and we were not fueled (#8 in line). I got to answer the call 10 mins prior to the descent into Bagdad from the Senior yelling at me about the 4 hour "crew delay" obviously due to us showing up at the window 1 minute past our SOE. Yeah... that makes perfect sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) How about when they blame the delay or canx on the first party not to meet the SOE? Showed up at the window at Ramstein once 61 mins after alert, but when we showed up at the jet it wasn't loaded because ATOC only had one team and we were not fueled (#8 in line). I got to answer the call 10 mins prior to the descent into Bagdad from the Senior yelling at me about the 4 hour "crew delay" obviously due to us showing up at the window 1 minute past our SOE. Yeah... that makes perfect sense! I handled a lot of issues like this when I was in command post. I never understood the almost pathological desire by MX personnel to lie in order to avoid a delay code being assigned to them. The whole purpose of the delay code system is to provide accurate info on why planes aren't taking off on time. How can AMC spot trends in declining aircraft reliability when MX personnel lie so that their power point slides look good? The regulation that governs delay codes is AMCI 10-202V6. The verbiage on how to assign delays is right here: "The primary deviation code is the first event in the sequence of events that directly leads (meaning an event from which unit actions cannot recover) to the mission departing in delay. C2 controllers will consider the 14-minute take-off window when evaluating "recoverable" events." So, if showing up 1 minute late to the acft does not directly lead to a takeoff delay, the code should be assigned to someone else. Chapter 6 has the list of all of the codes. 219 and 222 are the ones that CP and MX love to assign to aircrew. Edited August 14, 2013 by Stank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Wait.... There's an instruction that governs delay codes? Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't think most ops guys actually care who the cnx goes to. I start to lose my sh!t when the other party(s) blatantly lie about the reason to put the blame on someone else. I've seen this multiple times at a deployed location where a crew bends over backwards to try to make the mission happen, but just can't do it (MX, WX, cargo). The next day the delay code is on the crew explained with a flat-out lie as to why it was an ops cnx. THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUSEPLUG Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Chapter 6 has the list of all of the codes. 219 and 222 are the ones that CP and MX love to assign to aircrew. Though I don't recall exactly what it was (nor do I care to look it up again), but 222 was always my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosepileit Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Crew failed to follow proscribed procedures, to whit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Pipes Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I handled a lot of issues like this when I was in command post. I never understood the almost pathological desire by MX personnel to lie in order to avoid a delay code being assigned to them. The whole purpose of the delay code system is to provide accurate info on why planes aren't taking off on time. How can AMC spot trends in declining aircraft reliability when MX personnel lie so that their power point slides look good? I was at Ramstein once when my crew shared a bus out to the jet with a Reserve C-5 front end crew where the AC had been arguing a delay code with AMCC saying they were 10 mins late to the window because the bus showed up over 30 mins late. The Maj AC and the AMCC Maj behind the window were getting into it pretty good ending with AMCC saying the crew was getting the delay code and that was how it was going down. When we pulled up to the C-5... it only had 3 engines on it!!! I shit you not!!! I've been alerted to a broken jet before, but it least it had the correct amount of engines on it when I showed up! I was so bummed out that I couldn't make the trip back inside to witness the conversation at the window, but I was literally still laughing 7 hrs later on final at Balad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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