Linda Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Link: http://news.yahoo.co...-084104472.html Hrmph... Kinda reminds me of the Mig pilot who defected from N Korea... actually became a professor at ERAU in Daytona Beach. Ballsy move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Sad. One less easy target if this thing ever kicks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Weren't the Israelis 85-0 against those guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Weren't the Israelis 85-0 against those guys? If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoleIt Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 They do make for rather expensive landfills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) A MiG-21? Maybe an Army Colonel will drive across the border in a Sherman Tank. It's about as relevant. If you want a MiG-21, there are plenty available, and it will only cost you about $50,000-$100,000 for a real nice one that is in flying condition... probably a lot nicer than this Syrian -21. Edited June 22, 2012 by Huggyu2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, airplanes are sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) "Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported... ...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet," http://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622 Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. Edited June 22, 2012 by 17D_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Japan and Germany still do as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJu Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? To bomb their own people. "Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported... ...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet," http://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622 Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. They said Syria already apologized, not sure this one will escalate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, helicopters airplanes are sexy. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExBoneOSO Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 They do make for rather expensive landfills. Who's going to fly that FCF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Davies Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Who's going to fly that FCF?? You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Shhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) Relevance? I don't think anyone is looking to refurb it and fly it in airshows. The defection is relevant for other reasons. Yes, I get it. The Colonel,... the political situation... blah, blah,... Just having a little fun, making comments to draw comments. However... ... my point stands... Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG. Edited June 23, 2012 by Huggyu2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. Japan and Germany still do as well Greece, South Korea, and Iran also fly them as part of their combat fleets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II#Operational_history Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape. Red Eagles: America's Secret MiGs Haven't read all, but it is some fascinating stuff. Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter) It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years. Don't worry, their FMC rate is 0.69%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Brabus, you say that as if the fmc rate at your wing was any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a Tomgrape? We're already shooting F-4s in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Don't worry, their FMC rate is 0.69%. I wasn't talking about Raptors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I wasn't talking about Raptors. Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots? Always quick on the uptake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeA10 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a Tomgrape? We're already shooting F-4s in Florida. RF-4s are almost gone. On deck?? The QF-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingOsh Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 However... ... my point stands... Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG. I think the kid could have walked across the border and it would've made news. The word "defect" by itself proves a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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