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Disappointing. One air show demo does more than what a thousand cheezy sci-fi TV commercials can do in terms of getting people to notice the Air Force.

The million dollar question now is when will TIB be cut.

This is olds news!

Everyone has knows since back in Dec, just before the ICAS conference.....all the solo's teams except F-22 are cancelled.

The screwed up thing is that they are still allowing the demo jets to go to airshows when participating in a Heritage Flight, but they won't fly their single ship profile, so all of the normal XC expenses are still being spent.

Cheers,

Cap-10

The PACAF Viper Demo Team remains. It's more of a PACOM political thing (with other nations we like to keep as friends) than anything else, but I'm glad it wasn't axed.

Cut everyone else's programs, but don't touch my favorite ones regardless of how frivolous they are!

Couldn't care less that these demo teams were cut. Anyone in the air force knows that these demo pilots couldn't make it on the elite Thunderbirds.

Couldn't care less that these demo teams were cut. Anyone in the air force knows that these demo pilots couldn't make it on the elite Thunderbirds.

Yep, you're clueless.

Yep, you're clueless.

Yep, you can't detect sarcasm if it stamped a mushroom on your forehead.

The level of buffoonery at ACC that was involved in this decision is staggering. Granted, they think they are saving some cash.

Too bad they didn't ask any of the Demo Teams to weigh in on where the "supposed savings" would be. Had they done that, they certainly would have left them alone.

The million dollar question now is when will TIB be cut.

This.

The level of buffoonery at ACC that was involved in this decision is staggering. Granted, they think they are saving some cash.

Too bad they didn't ask any of the Demo Teams to weigh in on where the "supposed savings" would be. Had they done that, they certainly would have left them alone.

Awww, c'mon Huggy -- you've been around long enough to know that it doesn't matter a lick what the actual impact of a certain decision is, it only matters how that decision looks.

Good thing ACC still has the MC-12 demo team!

Good thing ACC still has the MC-12 demo team!

Nice. Have they got the aileron roll down yet, or just sticking with the barrel roll?

Nice. Have they got the aileron roll down yet, or just sticking with the barrel roll?

Too soon?

Nice. Have they got the aileron roll down yet, or just sticking with the barrel roll?

There's a difference?

Too soon?

Nope. ######ing morons.

Cut em all I say. Thunderchickens, TIB, all of them.

Nope. ######ing morons.

Cut em all I say. Thunderchickens, TIB, all of them.

Somebody woke up grumpy this morning.

Notice his location. Makes sense.

I always hate to see flying gigs and good deals go away.

I can go both ways on this (STS). There are pros and cons. The demo dudes were a lot more down to earth than the t-chicks and it was nice seeing something other than a Viper all the time. If these demo teams have to go, TIB should as well.

The fact that demo teams were cut before TIB is a good demonstrator for how jacked up the AF currently is...

The fact that demo teams were cut before TIB is a good demonstrator for how jacked up the AF currently is...

So. F'n. True.

There are pros and cons.

Let's hear some pros to cutting the demo teams, then.

The demo dudes were a lot more down to earth than the t-chicks...

Do you know (past or present) anyone on the Thunderbirds? Everyone I've known on the team has been just fine. Some better than others, but all that I've known are folks I enjoy spending time with.

Edited April 22, 201213 yr by Huggyu2

Let's hear some pros to cutting the demo teams, then.

1. Saves money

2. Those pilots can go to other billets which need to be filled (staff).

I don't know whether those pros outweigh the cons or not.