What's wrong with the Air Force?

[DirtyFlightSuit]

We all believed that Welsh was genuine and see how far that got us? Talk's cheap and so far Finger's has provided only talk and some minor change that is not worth mentioning yet.  If he makes bigger more meaningful steps all the more credit to him but so far I'm not entertained. 

[Duck]

This is totally fair. If I'm pushing stories that leave readers with the impression of inductive reasoning based on a single random email, I'm missing the mark. Appreciate the input.

TC, I just sent you a PM. I have a former student who has quite the story to tell you. Might need some JQP light shined on it.


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[Bender]

Duck, you're a tease. If you were a hooker...you'd starve.

Bendy


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[Duck]

Duck, you're a tease. If you were a hooker...you'd starve.

Bendy


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True... haven't seen too many 6'4" 250lb hookers. One of my old students is going through some $hit with upper, high level management. We're talking FEB, strip your wings kinda stuff. As soon as it all settles I'll see if he minds me posting more.


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[Craft Beer]

On 7/11/2017 at 9:46 PM, ThreeHoler said:

Good riddance to a shit program (select via promotion board). Hopefully the new will be less shit.

Did anyone catch in Goldfein's text that it said all developmental education...does that mean O-5 and O-6 too?

I caught that. It would be a curious O-5 list, as the BTZers would already know they are SELs leaving the random few IPZers wondering about the last spots. At that point, who are they trying to kid?

[17D_guy]

I know we don't talk the Enlisted stuff too much on here, but the new CMSAF just shat all over the outgoing idiot's EPME "revolution."  Everyone should have gotten that email today.

Edited July 18, 2017 by 17D_guy

[Guardian]

How so?


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[BashiChuni]

2 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

I know we don't talk the Enlisted stuff too much on here, but the new CMSAF just shat all over the outgoing idiot's EPME "revolution."  Everyone should have gotten that email today.

Good 

[FourFans]

9 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

I know we don't talk the Enlisted stuff too much on here, but the new CMSAF just shat all over the outgoing idiot's EPME "revolution."  Everyone should have gotten that email today.

Just saw that too.  Looks like a significant step in the right direction.

[MooseAg03]

Transgender Awareness Training. I can't believe we are enacting policy to accommodate people with mental illness. I guess we learned nothing from Bradley/Chelsea Manning.


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[Guest LumberjackAxe]

10 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:

Transgender Awareness Training. I can't believe we are enacting policy to accommodate people with mental illness. I guess we learned nothing from Bradley/Chelsea Manning.


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So that's happening now? I remember when we had the DADT repeal training back in '12, and the general consensus amongst everyone was that no one (at least at the bar afterward) cared if people served openly gay. But if I remember correctly, it was mainly about the admin kind of stuff. Like "Before, you could face punishment for being gay. Now you can't."

Is that what this is now? Like "Before, you couldn't enlist/commission if you identified as trans. Now you can." Or is it something else?

 

[Naviguesser]

42 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:

Transgender Awareness Training. I can't believe we are enacting policy to accommodate people with mental illness. I guess we learned nothing from Bradley/Chelsea Manning.


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Bending over backwards to accommodate a tiny percentage of the overall population while doing nothing to address the pilot exodus.  Nice work, Big Blue.  I'm glad we have our priorities in order.

My DOS cannot arrive fast enough...

[dream big]

Transgender policy is under "review" by the Trump admin.. that was as of a month ago not sure there has been updates.  I'm glad my CC compressed tranny awareness training into 30 seconds and then proceeded to talk about aircraft safety issues :)

[ATIS]

19 minutes ago, Naviguesser said:

Bending over backwards to accommodate a tiny percentage of the overall population while doing nothing to address the pilot exodus.  Nice work, Big Blue.  I'm glad we have our priorities in order.

My DOS cannot arrive fast enough...

It's not just Big Blue there shipmate.  We are all taking a bite of this sandwich. 

ATIS

[matmacwc]

37 minutes ago, ATIS said:

It's not just Big Blue there shipmate.  We are all taking a bite of this sandwich. 

ATIS

Wouldn't a transgendered sandwich be a taco?

[Lord Ratner]

That's racist

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[Naviguesser]

51 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

Wouldn't a transgendered sandwich be a taco?

Depends on the meat...

[Azimuth]

2 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:

So that's happening now? I remember when we had the DADT repeal training back in '12, and the general consensus amongst everyone was that no one (at least at the bar afterward) cared if people served openly gay. But if I remember correctly, it was mainly about the admin kind of stuff. Like "Before, you could face punishment for being gay. Now you can't."

What Eagle Sq was this at?

[Guest]

What Eagle Sq was this at?

All of them.


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[MooseAg03]

You guys haven't reviewed the slide show? I particularly liked the scenarios discussing how to handle a member scheduled to deploy who is currently undergoing sexual reassignment therapy. Good God, why would anyone want to be a commander in this Air Force and have to deal with that shit?


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[Azimuth]

7 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:

You guys haven't reviewed the slide show? I particularly liked the scenarios discussing how to handle a member scheduled to deploy who is currently undergoing sexual reassignment therapy. Good God, why would anyone want to be a commander in this Air Force and have to deal with that shit?


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Fuck no I haven't.

 

[SurelySerious]

Wouldn't a transgendered sandwich be a taco?

Hotdog on a bun?

[SurelySerious]

So Baba Rand had a "Pilot Retention" Forum or something to that effect the other day. Luckily I couldn't attend, so I'll paraphrase second-hand info. Having worked under his command enough times to know his bullshit, it's probably from accurate accounts.

Roughly: none of your complaints are valid because you're not flying over Hanoi losing 11 BUFFs a day.

He brushed off anything brought up as a non-issue, and his message was suck it up your life is good.

Nice.

[dream big]

8 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

So Baba Rand had a "Pilot Retention" Forum or something to that effect the other day. Luckily I couldn't attend, so I'll paraphrase second-hand info. Having worked under his command enough times to know his bullshit, it's probably from accurate accounts.

Roughly: none of your complaints are valid because you're not flying over Hanoi losing 11 BUFFs a day.

He brushed off anything brought up as a non-issue, and his message was suck it up your life is good.

Nice.
 

That jack hole was similarly dismissive to our SOS class.  People like him are the reason we have a pilot shortage.  F that guy 

[08Dawg]

1 hour ago, SurelySerious said:

So Baba Rand had a "Pilot Retention" Forum or something to that effect the other day. Luckily I couldn't attend, so I'll paraphrase second-hand info. Having worked under his command enough times to know his bullshit, it's probably from accurate accounts.

Roughly: none of your complaints are valid because you're not flying over Hanoi losing 11 BUFFs a day.

He brushed off anything brought up as a non-issue, and his message was suck it up your life is good.

Nice.
 

So it's going to take losing 11 BUFFs a day over Pyongyang or Tehran for leadership to actually listen to the concerns of those who most heavily carry the burdens of airpower?  UFB...